how long would it take to make a 10 min long fractal zoom at 1080p?

[shadyJ]

Thanks for the info!

I'll try that color cycling sometime on the weekend, I think it will be pretty cool in a zoom.

A question: instead of a deep zoom, do you think that a slow, color cycling zoom that doesn't go really deep will take a lot of time to render? Also, can ChaosPro anti-alias the animations it outputs into a .avi file?

Thanks!

[Sockratease]

Again, render time depends upon far too many factors to answer the question as stated.  I can say that color cycling does not add to the render time much unless the color palette used is extremely complex.

Also, can ChaosPro anti-alias the animations it outputs into a .avi file?

I STRONGLY suggest NOT rendering to avi!!!

Especially for longer animations.

Render an image sequence, and compile it in a video editor (VirtualDub is what I started with, and it's Free!).

Rendering to avi can be dangerous.  You can bog down your computer's memory near the end and lose everything.

Likewise a power failure - all work lost.

But if you render an image sequence, even in the event of a power failure - you still have what was created up to that point, and can just pick up from the last keyframe rendered!

And Anti-Aliasing does add to render times.

Tremendously if set too high!

[shadyJ]

Hmm, didn't know that about .avi's, thanks.

The only thing is, I don't know how to compile images for virtual dub, I'm sure it isn't difficult though. Can anyone point me to a tutorial or something about how to use that. I have never used these types of software before, the only media software I know how to use is audio stuff, not video stuff.

thanks!

[teamfresh]

with Vdub to set up an image sequence...
(I assume you have a folder with a numbered image/frame sequence inside)
1) click file and select "open video file"
2) ensure the check box on the bottom left hand side marked "automatically load liked segments" is checked
3) Now select the first frame. click "open" and all the other frames should have also now automatically imported into Vdub.
4) export in the chosen manner

give me a shout if you get stuck with number 4.

as for "last lights on" Yeah if I had pulled my finger out I could have knocked a month or two off of that   still patience is definitely required for deep zooms at pretty much any resolution. past e16 its number crunching time. I think If I had Tried to do that at 1080 it would have taken around a year or two!!!  also even though it cant do deep zooms -- i started animating on chaos pro and I love it.
Love the fractal in the eye!
one thing I do love is the 3D engine. way cool for hight maps you can even animate them into movies.


oh yeah - Try Xaos out if you get the chance. works on any platform and has real time fractal zooming!!!

[shadyJ]

Thank you very much!

I will give virtualdub a try tomorrow evening, and let you know how it goes. I'll try out Xaos too.

Thanks!

[shadyJ]

ok, I tried making some animations in ChaosPro, using the separate pictures method instead of just making an .avi, but the problem I have sometimes is that it crashes after the first picture is rendered. It doesn't even complete one frame. Can anyone give me a tip on what could be going wrong?

[bib]

ChaosPro.....crashes

That's the problem with Chaospro : too unstable

I have used UF thousands of hours, and it crashed maybe once or twice.
I have used Chaospro tens of hours, and it crashed.....every 30 minutes...

[teamfresh]

the fact chaos pro crashes all the time is the reason I stopped using it really. although it did teach me to save my work more often!!!!

[shadyJ]

I have rendered some animations successfully, like the escape time mandelbrots, in ChaosPro, but when I try to render my attractor things, like that 3d Sierpinski carpet box thing, it crashes right away. Sigh.

Anyway I am trying my hand at Xaos now, but I am having similar problems recording zooms that I had on ChaosPro. I am not rendering them yet, just recording them for now. Anyway, the problem is I will be recording a nice steady zoom, but when I play back the zoom, it seems to stop following the positions after a little bit in the zoom that I guided it with the mouse, and the screen just starts flashing a bunch of colors like it's going crazy. Can anyone tell me what is happening? Boy, I hate to sound so helpless! I wish this stuff would just work like I expect!

[teamfresh]

it could be your graphics card is not up to scratch. hard to say  Maybe you could try a different piece of software. Why not try out ultra fractal? its similar to chaos pro and its stable. I don't think its necessarily the best software out there - (that goes to mandelbulber/mandelbulb 3d in my humble opinion :) but you cant go wrong with it and it has some wicked tuts for you to learn all the features etc.....