STEPHEN HAWKING

[Sockratease]

Pondering some more on Hawking.. He is a scientist. Yet he aslo seems to be a philosopher. I seem to be having trouble distinguishing were one ends (the scientist) & the philosopher begins. Anyone else?

I'm both!

Degrees in Chemistry and Philosophy.

Of course, the Philosophy degree was an accident...

I was taking Philosophy electives, and one day noticed that there were none left!  So I just paid the Graduation Fee, and got the Degree.  

There does not need to be a distinction anyhow.

The Degree named PhD (Doctorate) literally means Philosopher's Degree, yet it is most commonly given to Scientists.

Math courses are in the Arts department, not Science.

The distinction is merely for show.  Really you can't have one without the other...

[kram1032]

A scientist who is not a philosopher is like a body without a mind.
While science is mind-driven, more or less, just plainly searching for results without interpreting them wont work.
Any scientist who is regarded as good and probably also most of the less well known ones are philosophic.

Also, philosophy is the root of all sience.
A philosopher is a "friend of thinking". Philosophers were the first to wonder about the world and how it works. They then eventually splitted up into several kinds of science and art.

Math in the Art department? Fitting Real higher maths are rather a kind of art than anything else

[Sockratease]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/p9wunjbyeHk&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/p9wunjbyeHk&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>

[Bent-Winged Angel]

A scientist who is not a philosopher is like a body without a mind.
While science is mind-driven, more or less, just plainly searching for results without interpreting them wont work.
Any scientist who is regarded as good and probably also most of the less well known ones are philosophic.

Also, philosophy is the root of all sience.
A philosopher is a "friend of thinking". Philosophers were the first to wonder about the world and how it works. They then eventually splitted up into several kinds of science and art.

Math in the Art department? Fitting Real higher maths are rather a kind of art than anything else

Well said!  However I do not think as much about philosophers who are NOT scientists.  Just a lot of "in theory" talk.  It seems like until; Newton came along that's what they wwere all about.

Socratease I have seen the original Monty Python video of that.   LOVE IT!  The addition of Hawking is Priceless!

[kram1032]

Well, there are enough "in theory"-scientists as well

[Bent-Winged Angel]

Well, there are enough "in theory"-scientists as well

Very true... BUUUT... they do have more motivation to prove their theories.  Kinda makes them more credible as scientists.

[Bent-Winged Angel]

Has he changed his mind?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7979211/Has-Stephen-Hawking-ended-the-God-debate.html

[Sockratease]

Has he changed his mind?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7979211/Has-Stephen-Hawking-ended-the-God-debate.html

That debate will never end.

There is only one thing I can say with Certainty about the relationship between Humanity and God : One Created The Other!

And only one thing I can say with Certainty about God : Her Nose is Too Big!

[kram1032]

Nice article, BWA

And some of the comments below it are interesting too.

[Lee Oliver]

This whole subject reminds me of why I wanted to become a theoretical physicist in the first place.  Personally, I feel that Stephen Hawking has been doing science with the intentions of profit in mind.  He is a very intelligent man, but it has gone to his big brainy head a little, and he has the right to be that way.  His research has shed light into many areas of science that few other have explored.

As for M-theory, I am kind of hesitant to jump on that particular wagon at this time.

[Bent-Winged Angel]

As Sockratease said the debate will never end.   1st of all we would ALL have to agree on same definition of god.  BrutalToad .. not sure about the "profit " thing... buuut I do believe his intellect has gone to his head!  lol 

Nice article, BWA

And some of the comments below it are interesting too.

Thank you     have the same conversation going on in my "ponderings" group.