END OF AN ERA, FRACTALFORUMS.COM IS CONTINUED ON FRACTALFORUMS.ORG

it was a great time but no longer maintainable by c.Kleinhuis contact him for any data retrieval,
thanks and see you perhaps in 10 years again

this forum will stay online for reference
News: Check out the originating "3d Mandelbulb" thread here
 
*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register. November 30, 2025, 08:02:15 PM


Login with username, password and session length


The All New FractalForums is now in Public Beta Testing! Visit FractalForums.org and check it out!


Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Share this topic on DiggShare this topic on FacebookShare this topic on GoogleShare this topic on RedditShare this topic on StumbleUponShare this topic on Twitter
Author Topic: A Seahorse Odyssey CIX  (Read 893 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Pauldelbrot
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 2592



pderbyshire2
« on: September 10, 2013, 03:23:04 PM »

A Seahorse Odyssey CIX



http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=14824

It's the octopus doing the twist, again.
Logged

Nahee_Enterprises
World Renowned
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 2250


use email to contact


nahee_enterprises Nahee.Enterprises NaheeEnterprise
WWW
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 03:49:29 AM »

    A Seahorse Odyssey CIX
    It's the octopus doing the twist, again.

I realize that zooms tend to repeat themselves to some extent as one goes deeper, but was hoping to see a bit more variation in the selected choices for posting.  A twisting octopus (again) becomes less interesting unless there is something new involved in the image.    cheesy
 
Logged

Pauldelbrot
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 2592



pderbyshire2
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 05:36:27 PM »

The coloring is quite different ... and the center area looks different from the last one. smiley
Logged

Kalles Fraktaler
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 1458



kallesfraktaler
WWW
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2013, 06:24:38 PM »

I realize that zooms tend to repeat themselves to some extent as one goes deeper, but was hoping to see a bit more variation in the selected choices for posting.  A twisting octopus (again) becomes less interesting unless there is something new involved in the image.    cheesy
 

I think you need some knowledge and more patience to appreciate our deep Mandelbrot zooms cheesy

What I think you need to know is that one can select paths in the Mandelbrot fractal that gives a almost desired result.
We usually center the zoom and then turn away from the center to stretch the shapes.
When turned away the pattern repeats until the same shape appears again, now stretched.
But it is impossible to know exactly how it turns out, and that is what is fascinating, at least for us enthusiasts wink
For each stretching maneuver, the distance to the next time to stretch is doubled...

When turned away from the center, you are usually halfway from a minibrot if you continue zooming in the center.
All the shapes you passed so far will repeat, with double intensity, until you reached 1/4 of the distance to the minibrot.
Then the shapes will repeat again, now with 4 times intensity, until 1/8 from the minibrot.
And so on, when the pattern intensity is reaching infinity the minibrot appears.

And that is how the Mandelbrot set works. Pauldebrot's zoom will give more beautiful variations indeed, but there will be a lot of repetition to get there smiley
Logged

Want to create DEEP Mandelbrot fractals 100 times faster than the commercial programs, for FREE? One hour or one minute? Three months or one day? Try Kalles Fraktaler http://www.chillheimer.de/kallesfraktaler
http://www.facebook.com/kallesfraktaler
Nahee_Enterprises
World Renowned
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 2250


use email to contact


nahee_enterprises Nahee.Enterprises NaheeEnterprise
WWW
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2013, 04:43:50 AM »

    The coloring is quite different ... and the center area looks different from the last one. smiley

Little differences in a small section in the center, and a change in the color is not really that much of a variation.  Like I said, I was hoping to see a bit more in the differences.    cheesy
 
Logged

Nahee_Enterprises
World Renowned
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 2250


use email to contact


nahee_enterprises Nahee.Enterprises NaheeEnterprise
WWW
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 05:46:43 AM »

    I think you need some knowledge and more patience to appreciate our deep Mandelbrot zooms  cheesy

Apparently a youngster like you does not know as much as you think you do (which is typical of the younger crowd)!!!  For one thing, I have more knowledge than you do, because I have lived longer than you, done more, seen more, read more, experienced more, etc...  So, Karl Runmo, before you start making judgements about me, maybe you better gather some knowledge of your own, you might actually learn something.     loser

And I have patience!!!  That is not the point I was making.  I just do not see any reason to show something quite similar to previous posted images by the same individual.  A slight change in some small area and a different color is not really showing me anything that new.  Maybe it is because I have seen so many fractals over the past several decades.  Maybe it is because I have respect for what I know Paul Derbyshire is capable of producing, and expect a bit more from him than just another posted image with little variation from a previous one.

    What I think you need to know is that one can select paths in the Mandelbrot fractal that gives a almost desired result.
    We usually center the zoom and then turn away from the center to stretch the shapes.
    When turned away the pattern repeats until the same shape appears again, now stretched.
    But it is impossible to know exactly how it turns out, and that is what is fascinating, at least for us enthusiasts wink
    For each stretching maneuver, the distance to the next time to stretch is doubled...
    When turned away from the center, you are usually halfway from a minibrot if you continue zooming in the center.
    All the shapes you passed so far will repeat, with double intensity, until you reached 1/4 of the distance to the minibrot.
    Then the shapes will repeat again, now with 4 times intensity, until 1/8 from the minibrot.
    And so on, when the pattern intensity is reaching infinity the minibrot appears.

I already know all of this, I was doing zooms several decades ago.  And I have seen thousands of others, if not tens of thousands.  I realize that since this seems all new to you, that you think you should go around preaching to others, but there are some of us that have seen so much that we have become bored with such similar images.  When you have lived and seen as much as me, then you may have gained enough experience and knowledge to have a decent conversation.  Until then, try learning a bit more.    sticking out tongue

    And that is how the Mandelbrot set works.  Pauldebrot's zoom will give more beautiful variations indeed,
    but there will be a lot of repetition to get there  smiley

First of all, I know how the "Mandelbrot set works".     cheesy

Secondly, I am sure that Paul Derbyshire will produce much more interesting images as time goes by.  I have seen his work for many years now, and I have all of his postings to the FractInt Discussion List and the Fractal-Art List from back in the 1990's.  I was just hoping on a bit more than what was presented in this "variation" image.
 
Logged

Kalles Fraktaler
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 1458



kallesfraktaler
WWW
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 09:51:37 AM »

Ok, sorry if I offended you. And thanks for calling me young, but I am not cheesy
Logged

Want to create DEEP Mandelbrot fractals 100 times faster than the commercial programs, for FREE? One hour or one minute? Three months or one day? Try Kalles Fraktaler http://www.chillheimer.de/kallesfraktaler
http://www.facebook.com/kallesfraktaler
Dinkydau
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 1616



WWW
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 10:30:23 AM »

I think it would be wise not to mingle me in the discussion about life experience, but I do agree with Nahee enterprises that it's not necessary to render many similar structures with different colors. The compute time could be used to render new things that haven't been seen before. I wouldn't spend so much time on just one location, unless it's for a video.
Logged

Nahee_Enterprises
World Renowned
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 2250


use email to contact


nahee_enterprises Nahee.Enterprises NaheeEnterprise
WWW
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 12:55:22 PM »

    I think it would be wise not to mingle me in the discussion about life experience, but I do agree with "Nahee Enterprises" that
    it's not necessary to render many similar structures with different colors.  The compute time could be used to render new
    things that haven't been seen before.  I wouldn't spend so much time on just one location, unless it's for a video.

Which is what I was attempting to express.  And I am sure we are not the only two to think this way, just the only two to actually have the balls to say it for others to read.     cheesy
 
Logged

Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Related Topics
Subject Started by Replies Views Last post
A Seahorse Odyssey I Images Showcase (Rate My Fractal) Pauldelbrot 0 1624 Last post November 02, 2011, 03:41:36 AM
by Pauldelbrot
A Seahorse Odyssey II Images Showcase (Rate My Fractal) Pauldelbrot 0 1532 Last post November 05, 2011, 07:58:38 PM
by Pauldelbrot
A Seahorse Odyssey III Images Showcase (Rate My Fractal) Pauldelbrot 0 1490 Last post November 11, 2011, 06:59:09 PM
by Pauldelbrot
A Seahorse Odyssey IV Images Showcase (Rate My Fractal) Pauldelbrot 0 1553 Last post November 16, 2011, 11:19:58 PM
by Pauldelbrot
A Seahorse Odyssey V Images Showcase (Rate My Fractal) Pauldelbrot 0 1493 Last post November 21, 2011, 08:12:31 PM
by Pauldelbrot

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS! Dilber MC Theme by HarzeM
Page created in 0.434 seconds with 23 queries. (Pretty URLs adds 0.015s, 2q)