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« on: April 01, 2012, 12:05:54 PM »

Hi folks.

Would there be much interest If I created a chat room for the forum? Would most likely be on Quakenet (very stable irc server) .. I have done this in the past for other specialised forum with success. I can also create a special web page so folks can join the chat room without having to mess about with irc clients.
From previous experience it is always a compliment to the forum rather then a diversion off the forum. It wont reduce forum activity if anything the opposite.
We could trial it out for a week perhaps, nothing has to be set in stone.

any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2012, 02:35:44 PM »

+1 \o/
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 02:56:35 PM »

I like the idea but doubt that there will be much activity...
But I guess, we'll see smiley

Just as an additional crazy idea to make that more fractal, how about some contributory stats that can then be nicely arranged in an animated contribution tree?
Not sure how that works out but it would add the fractal component into the fractal forums chat cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 03:15:14 PM »

Me like.
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 04:27:49 PM »

Ok folks, give me a day or two to set things up..
 and yea sure it`ll probably be dead quite, but oh hell i guess its worth a try, ya never know what might come out of it.

Regarding the animated stats... heh well im not entirely sure what you mean there. But im always willing and eager to try out new things smiley

ill keep you all posted with this

regards
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2012, 04:46:56 PM »

Piespy ?  grin

http://www.jibble.org/piespy/
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2012, 04:55:52 PM »

OK have mailed Christian regarding this, just to get the ok there. Dont want to step on anyone's toes here.

Hi ker2x  smiley

Interesting, ive seen such things to collect and display stats for IRC activity (even with the relationship map/web graphic), and I suppose it dosent surprise me that there is also something similar for forums. However Im not sure how you would tie both chatroom and forum stats together... That sounds like a tricky task, Im not sure I could do but will at some stage look into.

regards smiley

EDIT:  "thanks for that April fools scare fractalforums" wink  you certainly raised my heart rate and triggered a hot flush of "oh crap ive been hacked into" concern.... if only for a few seconds. smiley
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 11:59:51 AM »

When I said, animated graph, I was talking about this:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/8hgF0WFPTpc&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/8hgF0WFPTpc&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>
That was made with Gource, which is specialized in Source-code-representation, but I guess, Piespy will be better for this?
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 05:59:17 PM »

Wow, i must say ive never seen anything quite like that before, stunning.. And also its worth noting how fractal it looks.. goes to show how much fractal type systems permeate into real life, including social habits.

I will most certainly look into this as soon as i have the time.
cheers kram
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2012, 06:12:03 PM »

When I said, animated graph, I was talking about this:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/8hgF0WFPTpc&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/8hgF0WFPTpc&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>
That was made with Gource, which is specialized in Source-code-representation, but I guess, Piespy will be better for this?

I know this software, i presented it at work last friday smiley
It fun to see it appears here 2 days later  grin
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 12:38:26 PM »

Although I still want to jazz the page up a bit, I have a full functional Chat page setup.
I still need to organise Chat room services, and some other things, but for now its up and running.

http://www.fractalscapes.net/fractalforums/chat.html
Might be best to use your forum name to avoid confusion.
If the chatbox/text is too small , hold down on your ctrl key and zoom in and out with your mouse wheel.

I shall post any development updates in this thread.
And also, despite my name being online in the chat room, it dose not mean Im at my keyboard 24/7
however I will at keep an eye out if anyone wants to pop in to check it out.

Regards
pan smiley

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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2012, 06:12:44 PM »

Well ive been busy setting a few things up.
 
Registered the Chatroom with Quakenet
Built a Chatroom services bot with..
   - Room and User Statistics
   - Full Translation Service
   - !seen and !lastspoke service
   - !spell check (word)
   - Chatroom quotes system
   - & more. with more to come.


For those of you who are not familiar with irc. I shall explain the very basics here, but will also make a web page soon with far more detailed information on how to use irc and various options and tricks.
But here are the basics


When you enter the room, you will see a list of nicks (names).
You type your text down the very bottom of the window in the text box, and hit return to send it to the room.
The name Q is a chatroom services bot from quakenet that essentially makes the room official with Quakent and gives the room owner greater control over the chatroom.
The name MandleBot is a bot I have made myself to help with other chat room services, and control... things that Q cannot do.

If you see a @ before anyone's name it means they are an Operator of that chatroom,  this is the equivalent of an administrator or moderator here on this forum. They can kick, ban, and do many other channel control functions.

If you see a + before anyone's name it means they are "voiced".. This option is not necessary but can help to control the channel in some circumstances.
For example, at the moment I have everyone that enters the room to automaticly get a + (voice)...  if they do not talk for 15 mins they will get de-voiced, which means they will have nothing before their name.  If they talk they will automaticly gain a + again.. and so on.. This is not to punish people for not talking, but is so people coming into the room can see who has been recently active.  Other chatrooms use the + mode in other ways, for example in some chatrooms the + means regular user or trusted user. But in context to the #FractalForums chatroom it means nothing other then to display recent active names.

If you want to private message someone type /msg (name) .. without the ( ).. a new private window will open to that person, you can switch between windows by clicking the tabs right at the top of the web chat client.

The chatroom services  I have made right now are minimum, but if the room becomes popular I will add new things on. Chatroom servcies are usually started by typing a command, most of the commands I have made with a ! at the start. so for example if you where looking for someone who wasn't in the room at that time, and you wanted to know when last the person was there you would type !seen (name)

so here is a quick list of the main services i have up and running now

!seen (name)  = as explained above
!lastspoke (name) = says when that person last spoke
!lastline (name) = says the last line that person said
!pingme = checks your lag (lag is rarly an issue on quakenet)
!top10 = shows the top10 overall chatters (by word) long term
!todaytop10 = same as above but shows only todays stats
@trans = this will show you more help on how to use the translator ( I will write more detailed help for this)
!forecast (country, city) = weather updates (oh hell why not heh)

(please note I have all the services set to auto ignore a user if they attempt to use too many commands too fast.)


There are more options running now, but as soon as I get the time I will write more details regarding how to use irc, and the room services.
i have a big to-do list for more options, but only if I feel is there is sufficient interest in the chat room
I shall also make the webchat design better if there is interest in the chatroom.


well that's it today

ill keep you all updated as to any developments on this

regards
pan


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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2012, 11:37:04 PM »

I am sorry ive i missed any joiners.. i did see Simon join just there .. and missed you by  8mins 35secs tongue stuck out
sorry bout that.  oh and by the way, you got scattered clouds with high chance of rain, 7mph winds. tomorrow.
it works by finding the fractal formula of weather in your local area wink

EDIT.. also the chat room services commands as i stated above, anywhere you see ( ) .. it means im emphasising that something must go here..  but you never use the ( )
for example for the forecast you go !forecast Dublin, Ireland .. or something like that
not !forecast (Dublin, ireland) .. same goes with all the ! commands
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 12:21:38 AM »

I just joined - if only to reserve the user name.

Can't have imitation Hippy Scientist Pervert Philosopher Artists running around   afro

 Never really even used a chat room before.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2012, 01:43:49 AM »

yea let a day go by without much activity, then go away from keyboard to get ready for bed..and ppl start joining.. lol  argh.. sorry i missed the last few.. I shall stay awake for another hour if anyone else decides to have a look.
By the way I should have said im on GMT hours, so you can probably work out from that when im most likey to be asleep. I guess some people will be joining from other timezones, so Im sorry if im not there (awake or at my keyboard) to welcome you.

To the ones that joined, thanks, and please do try again some other time.. its only the first day, perhaps things might pickup with some regular joiners..etc

Anyhoo, later.
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