thomz (8)

[thom]

   I guess tonight wasn't really a warm and sunny evening...

[zonepatcher]

wow..looks like fractal clouds are rollin over a beautiful frac landscape...very beautiful

[DarkBeam]

Why you keep on send your images as attachments?

[Pauldelbrot]

I don't know. The gallery attached to this forum is nearly dead these days. Only Kali, Ross Hilbert, and I seem to post there very often any more and Kali and Hilbert both seem to be doing so less often than they used to.

[DarkBeam]

It was a question for user "thom"

[cKleinhuis]

And that the gallery isnt used is just wrong paudel,
i dunno why you think this place is dying and especially you are one ofthe reasons why we really consider three images a week should beenough

and this mesdage goes to user thomz. Since you didnt react on my pms i willremove your right to use attachments completely by today!!!

[bib]

And that the gallery isnt used is just wrong paudel,
i dunno why you think this place is dying and especially you are one ofthe reasons why we really consider three images a week should beenough

and this mesdage goes to user thomz. Since you didnt react on my pms i willremove your right to use attachments completely by today!!!

I agree, the gallery is not dying at all.

The only thing is that since the software update, the most viewed and top rated in the last 30 days have disappeared, that was interesting to show trends. Is it possible to fix that Christian?

[Pauldelbrot]

And that the gallery isnt used is just wrong paudel,
i dunno why you think this place is dying

I said it's being used less and less frequently, and by fewer and fewer people, and there is evidence to support my claim.

Go to http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=11 and you'll see that mostly it's just me, Kali, and Ross Hilbert, with a smattering of element90 and Ilionstar.

Go to http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=11;sortby=date;orderby=desc;start=200 and you'll see more variety. There's more by element90, and there's Fractal Ken, Jimmie, Power 8, Vega, mauxam, and others.

and especially you are one ofthe reasons why we really consider three images a week should beenough

What? Why? If anything I'm posting less than in the past. But other people are posting even less still, so it looks like I'm posting a lot.

and this mesdage goes to user thomz. Since you didnt react on my pms i willremove your right to use attachments completely by today!!!

With all due respect, that seems like a bit of an overreaction. Discriminating against specific users with regard to what the forum software will let them do also seems to set a troubling precedent. Attachments, having smaller file size limits than the gallery, aren't a space/bandwidth concern (and hosting elsewhere and linking from here is even less of one). The only thing arguably bothersome about it IMO is the gallery being less varied and less busy if fewer people use it.

[bib]

I said it's being used less and less frequently, and by fewer and fewer people, and there is evidence to support my claim.

Go to http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=11 and you'll see that mostly it's just me, Kali, and Ross Hilbert, with a smattering of element90 and Ilionstar.

Go to http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=11;sortby=date;orderby=desc;start=200 and you'll see more variety. There's more by element90, and there's Fractal Ken, Jimmie, Power 8, Vega, mauxam, and others.

What? Why? If anything I'm posting less than in the past. But other people are posting even less still, so it looks like I'm posting a lot.

With all due respect, that seems like a bit of an overreaction. Discriminating against specific users with regard to what the forum software will let them do also seems to set a troubling precedent. Attachments, having smaller file size limits than the gallery, aren't a space/bandwidth concern (and hosting elsewhere and linking from here is even less of one). The only thing arguably bothersome about it IMO is the gallery being less varied and less busy if fewer people use it.

Paul, the links you provide are just a sub-gallery. Check this one http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=listall;type=recent

[Sockratease]

With all due respect, that seems like a bit of an overreaction. Discriminating against specific users with regard to what the forum software will let them do also seems to set a troubling precedent. Attachments, having smaller file size limits than the gallery, aren't a space/bandwidth concern (and hosting elsewhere and linking from here is even less of one). The only thing arguably bothersome about it IMO is the gallery being less varied and less busy if fewer people use it.

Not at all.

Thom is abusing the privilege.

From the Rules and Guidelines Section of the forum:

When you want to post an Image to a Topic, please read the following guidelines:

Linking of Images
Use BBCode to include an external or already online image, as in the following:

Code:

 [img]http://www.fractalforums.com/gallery/0/63_29_05_08_11_49_58_0.gif[/img] 

Which produces the following result:




Use of Attachments
Attachments should be used Rarely and Wisely.  This is mainly because attachments get lost over time, threads grow older, and sometimes quite long.

Please do not post artistic images or something that you would like to last as attachments.  This is because FractalForums.com is a privately run site, and has only limited Web-Space Capabilities.  It is this forum's web space that will be consumed by them.

An Attached Image should have a direct relation to the post, and the post should not only read: "My Image Number XXX"
They are useful to underline a statement in the post, or a complex fact.

If you do not have an Account for a Hosting Site of larger images (i.e. DeviantArt, Flickr, Photobucket, etc... ) you can always use the Gallery here within the Forums to upload an image and make it available for others to see.



Posting of Images in Gallery
If you should have problems uploading an image to the gallery, the reason might be that it is somehow in a wrong format, open it with a common image viewer program and re-save it before uploading.

Attachments are stored on Fractalforums.com and *Are* a strain on both the database as well as the site's limited hosting capacity.

Gallery images are hosted off-site.

No strain on Fractalforums.com at all.

Then there's the transient nature of attachments.  I believe old attachments get purged periodically, not sure how long they last, but it's not permanent.

As for your comment "Discriminating against specific users with regard to what the forum software will let them do also seems to set a troubling precedent." - Not At All!

We have asked Thom repeatedly to not use attachments for images, and referred him to the post I quoted above.

By ignoring such requests from the Administrator of this forum, he is all but asking to have his ability to post attachments revoked.

While we encourage people to post their Art, we do have Guidelines for so doing, and ignoring those Guidelines is not only a burden to this site, it is rude.

[cKleinhuis]

@sock, they are hosted on another server, but they are consuming ff's webspace as well,
the point when using attachments is that it is for no good, not for the user and not for the
viewers, because attachments get lost, because they crumble down the thread view, so
if we offer a comfortable user gallery which proves extra features like voting and commenting
and when in our board rules exactly the point stands that thom is violating here, and thom
is not reacting, and he is the renitent kid that even wanted to get at us because we wanted
him to at least number through his postings, we shall be content ? no, this user is behaving
exactly like described in the section, quote:

"An Attached Image should have a direct relation to the post, and the post should not only read: "My Image Number XXX"
They are useful to underline a statement in the post, or a complex fact."

we had the problem of users naming their images "MyImageXXX" that makes no sense, not for the viewer and for none else,
and when this stupid posting behaviour is not adjusted, after private messaging

i am going to intervene, because this really makes me mad!
all those rules serve a certain goal, and the goal for the forum is to have useful content, and attachments ARE JUST NOT MEANT AS GALLERY,
that was the reason why we put up a gallery ...

and i will now go and remove the right from thomz, he might contact me in private mail and complain about it, but it wont change anything ...

[Pauldelbrot]

We have asked Thom repeatedly to not use attachments for images, and referred him to the post I quoted above.

I saw a question asking why he was using attachments to post images, which isn't quite the same thing as telling him not to. And this is the first I've seen anyone referred to that section of the guidelines.

By ignoring such requests from the Administrator of this forum, he is all but asking to have his ability to post attachments revoked.

I didn't interpret a question from DarkBeam (who isn't, to my knowledge, a sockpuppet of the administrator) asking why he was using attachments as a request from the administrator not to. The first such request I saw was the one posted around 5 am today that I thought might be an overreaction. If there were any earlier ones, this fact was not apparent to me.

Paul, the links you provide are just a sub-gallery.

I know; and it is that sub-gallery that I said seems to be dying.

[bib]

I know; and it is that sub-gallery that I said seems to be dying.

OK. No big deal as long as the other sub-galleries are doing well. At least this particular thread is not dying :D

[cKleinhuis]

i have contacted the guy via private messages on saturday, you where in the cc bib ... no response!

regards
ck

[Pauldelbrot]

OK. No big deal as long as the other sub-galleries are doing well.

Well, it kind of is. This one is supposed to be the "images showcase", after all. Why should it be getting less and less attention unless there's a wider problem? Furthermore, as is evident from earlier in this thread, the decamping of most of the former regular posters to this gallery is causing the three of us that are still posting to it routinely to appear, at first glance, to be hogging it or something, and that's causing Trifox to contemplate limiting everyone to three new images a week. I'd rather than didn't happen and probably so would many other people.

So ... what is going on?