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« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2009, 04:41:02 AM »

fractalwizz - loox like you the only one else I know that will spend months on an animation!  good man!

when you say E+243,  I assume you mean the same as I do with fractint. I can not go that deep at all - images would take several days to render.

how long do yours take and what is your iteration count?


(my current zoom to E+112 is now at E+104 and it has taken 14 months on 4 systems 24/7; looks like about 5 months to go.
 but I will post it on youtube and UFVP at E+104 until it is finished)

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« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2009, 03:41:57 PM »

fractalwizz - loox like you the only one else I know that will spend months on an animation!  good man!

Hey, don't you underestimate me . I'm now finishing an animation that took almost 2 months. I think I will post it in the movie showcase today.
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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2009, 12:05:04 AM »

I copied your post and saved it to a text file and named it "test.par", then navigated to it with UF 4.02 version.

That took only 1 hr 45 min to render at 640x480 on my Alienware Athlon64, my fastest system. I think it was using only 1 core, looking at task manager display.

I was amazed, then I saw the iteration count was less than 3000.

You will never see a mini-brot at that depth with so low iterations.

You need at least a million, and don't keep zooming into the "center" of the image; go off to one of the large standing waves where 4 points intersect.
From my experience, you are a long way to go.

My computer is rendering the minibrot now and it's 2 months remaining. I used only 500 000 iterations, which I think is enough.
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2009, 12:06:45 PM »

I recently started saying, "I need more RAM, I need more RAM" and people said "well what the hell do you need so much RAM for?" and I said "Well, my PC is running 24/7 rendering fractals pics and zooms," as if it's something special that requires bigger better computers to do because it takes up so much time.

THEN I realized, you know what?  What would ever be good enough??  You could render a fractal to infinite detail, size, or video frame rate, etc.  If I had access to computers fifty trillion times faster than the fastest on Earth, I would be making the exact same complaints.  I figured, if I could just render a fractal to infinite precision in seconds, there'd be no point to the learning process and methods to get to a final image/video we feel good about.

Then I realized I think the same thing with everywhere else I apply fractals, and as an artist in general.  (It's an artistic axiom that the creative mind always wants to do more than it's capable of translating through any given artistic medium).  I'll think up a simple fractal story like 27 pages in 3D (like a 3D tic-tac-toe cube of pages that can be permutated into different reading orders, or a fractal triangle of 3 depths), and then in a few days it's a 4096-paged story of some sort, then I'm depressed I don't have the software to design a library of trillions of books organized into pixels of a detailed Mandelbrot set!

It never ends.  So now I just grab some popcorn and watch my netbook in anticipation of the next pixel, and screw over the lady at Best Buy who told me not to do anything but Abacus and Angband with it.  The Comcast commercial comes to mind with the turtles who like to watch the "loading" percentage bar go up on a slow internet connection.  Now that's the optimistic way of approaching fractal zooms!
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« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2009, 05:14:15 PM »

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when you say E+243,  I assume you mean the same as I do with fractint. I can not go that deep at all - images would take several days to render.

how long do yours take and what is your iteration count?

At the moment, I am using UF5 for my animations - 640 by 480 without anti-aliasing - about 500k iterations on the endframe
I might just bail on it cause my new zoom software's almost done.
For a while now, I(like HPDZ) have been developing software to make deep zooms render faster. I just got it completed and it renders most images at depths deeper than e+30 faster than Fractint. Almost by 20% time reduction.
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2009, 05:02:19 AM »

you write your own software? and its better than fractint!? you gotta be pretty good - specially if you still in high school.
what are you using - VC++ ?   ASM ??

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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2009, 01:16:56 PM »

VC++
it took a while  sleepy; yawning; tired
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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2009, 10:56:12 PM »

My computer is rendering the minibrot now and it's 2 months remaining. I used only 500 000 iterations, which I think is enough.

Hmm, I gotta say, it does look like the estimated time of 2 months was a little off again. It's now at 23,36%. With all those other renders that I want to do (I haven't stopped making animations and fractals), give it 10 months more. shocked
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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2010, 05:31:09 PM »

Here's part 1 out of 4. Click to enlarge.

You see those very very thin lines coming out of the mandelbrot set? Those are actually the same sort of things as there are 4 of in the picture below! The deeper you zoom, the longer those "protuberances" are when approaching a minibrot.


The other 3 parts of this deep minibrot are coming "soon", I hope. The magnification is again 9.8097322E1383. That means:
98097322000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 !
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« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2010, 05:02:58 AM »

finally, done

For the full image, click this link:
http://www.deviantart.com/download/177347085/deep_mandelbrot_zoom_by_dinkydauset-d2xl5vx.png

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