Logo by Cyclops - Contribute your own Logo!

END OF AN ERA, FRACTALFORUMS.COM IS CONTINUED ON FRACTALFORUMS.ORG

it was a great time but no longer maintainable by c.Kleinhuis contact him for any data retrieval,
thanks and see you perhaps in 10 years again

this forum will stay online for reference
News: Follow us on Twitter
 
*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register. April 19, 2024, 10:17:44 AM


Login with username, password and session length


The All New FractalForums is now in Public Beta Testing! Visit FractalForums.org and check it out!


Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Share this topic on DiggShare this topic on FacebookShare this topic on GoogleShare this topic on RedditShare this topic on StumbleUponShare this topic on Twitter
Author Topic: Kleinian Limit Sets  (Read 12409 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
gandreas
Explorer
****
Posts: 53



WWW
« on: August 06, 2007, 10:16:26 PM »

Now that quadrium | flame 1.2 is finally available, time to show off a bit.  These are kleinian limit sets - basically, if you are familiar with how you can make Sierpenski's triangle using the limit set of three affine transforms (where one scales by 50%, the second scales by 50% and offsets x+0.5, and the third scales by 50% and offsets y+0.5), these are the same sort of thing only done with two bilinear transformations* (plus their inverses):

 
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/59895968/

 
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/59970373/

 
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/60004297/

* bilinear transformations are of the form f(x) = (a * x + b) / (c * x + d) where all the values are complex numbers.  Bilinear transforms like this are often called Moebius Transformations or fractional linear transformations, and preserve angles and circles (unlike affine transformations which can distort circles into ellipses).




« Last Edit: August 11, 2007, 12:53:33 AM by Nahee_Enterprises » Logged
lycium
Fractal Supremo
*****
Posts: 1158



WWW
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2007, 06:48:28 AM »

for those interested, there are quite a few sites with images and info on these fractals:

(artists)
http://www.josleys.com/galleries.php?catid=7 (probably the most famous kleinian limit set artist)
http://jsp7707.deviantart.com/gallery/ (friend of mine from deviantart)
http://lyc.deviantart.com/gallery/ (my gallery)

(mathematics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6bius_transformation
http://www.hiddendimension.com/KleinianGroup_Fractals_Main.html
http://klein.math.okstate.edu/IndrasPearls/ (website related to the book indra's pearls)
Logged

fractalwizz
Conqueror
*******
Posts: 129



WWW
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 03:39:15 AM »

How do you create these Kleinian Shapes in Ultra Fractal?
I have tried and I have got weird results.
Logged

lycium
Fractal Supremo
*****
Posts: 1158



WWW
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 04:51:26 AM »

you keep insisting that it be done in ultrafractal, why? tongue stuck out

personally i read up in indra's pearls about them and implemented it in my fractal rendering applications, almost the others would be done in apophysis and finally jos leys' are done in pov-ray with some custom scripts to set up the scene.
Logged

fractalwizz
Conqueror
*******
Posts: 129



WWW
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2008, 02:37:58 PM »

1. I use Ultra Fractal more than any other program out there.
2. I don't have the admin password to my computer to install the software.
Otherwise I would have Apophysis exe
Is there a stand-alone program of Apophysis? If it just runs off the .and not the installer, can use it.
Sorry if  I thought your comment was a little rude. That's how I react to things like that.
Logged

lycium
Fractal Supremo
*****
Posts: 1158



WWW
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2008, 10:03:48 AM »

i was being cheeky (explicitly labelled with tongue stuck out ), but the basic point is that if you can't find any formulae for it in the uf db, then you'll probably have to code it yourself.

i'd recommend reading indra's pearls as it exposes simple group theory in a visual manner that's really easy to follow, plus they give good coverage of those magical complex numbers -- from whence our beloved chaos springs -- specifically studying nested circle inversions. great bedtime reading!  afro
Logged

David Makin
Global Moderator
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 2286



Makin' Magic Fractals
WWW
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2008, 12:56:57 PM »

If I remember correctly there should be something in the "reb" collections but I can't remember which file or if it's written as a colouring or a main formula.
Logged

The meaning and purpose of life is to give life purpose and meaning.

http://www.fractalgallery.co.uk/
"Makin' Magic Music" on Jango
fractalwizz
Conqueror
*******
Posts: 129



WWW
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2008, 05:16:59 PM »

I will have to check the reb files for them. I briefly looked at the txt versions on the site, and I have seen klein all over the place.
I will check back when I have looked at it.
Logged

Dinkydau
Fractal Senior
******
Posts: 1616



WWW
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2008, 07:17:26 PM »

1. I use Ultra Fractal more than any other program out there.
2. I don't have the admin password to my computer to install the software.
Otherwise I would have Apophysis exe
Is there a stand-alone program of Apophysis? If it just runs off the .and not the installer, can use it.
Sorry if  I thought your comment was a little rude. That's how I react to things like that.

The latest beta versions don't require installation.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/apophysis/

Only thing is, you will have to create a folder for scripts yourself, if you want to use them.
Logged

_db_
Guest
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 09:11:43 PM »

In UF there are Indra's Pearls Workshop and Kleinian Group Raytrace colouring algorithms in reb.ucl.

There are some sample uprs and short discussions in my UltraFractalWiki which can be downloaded from:  http://www.mediafire.com/ultrafractalwiki

follow links:  root page >  [ConceptsAndTerms] > [Raytracing]

cheers,

db

Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Related Topics
Subject Started by Replies Views Last post
Virtual investigation to Mandelbrot sets and Julia sets Mandelbrot & Julia Set Jules Ruis 0 6664 Last post October 19, 2006, 06:36:54 PM
by Jules Ruis
Kleinian Limit Sets Other types fractalrebel 12 13214 Last post December 27, 2009, 09:34:27 PM
by fractalrebel
Kleinian groups - an immense collection with sources! Let's collaborate on something! DarkBeam 12 19605 Last post February 13, 2015, 04:06:20 PM
by Adam Majewski
Hyperbolic limit sets Fractal News across the World Tglad 3 1787 Last post November 13, 2012, 10:54:54 PM
by tit_toinou
An escape time algorithm for Kleinian group limit sets 3D Fractal Generation « 1 2 ... 8 9 » JosLeys 124 67291 Last post March 23, 2017, 01:38:46 PM
by ericr

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS! Dilber MC Theme by HarzeM
Page created in 0.154 seconds with 24 queries. (Pretty URLs adds 0.008s, 2q)