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Author Topic: Mandel Trek: The EXth Generation [Updated]  (Read 2020 times)
Description: X of Xs of Xs of Xs
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stardust4ever
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« on: September 10, 2014, 10:29:36 PM »

Se my new post for updated coordinates.
http://www.fractalforums.com/images-showcase-%28rate-my-fractal%29/mandel-trek-the-exth-generation/msg80122/#msg80122

Alternate title: "Deep Space Ex"

A brand new "X of Xs of Xs of Xs" shape I discovered.
Continuation of the Magnum Opus Ex "X of Xs of Xs" concept.

From the "Because I can" X-Files... evil

There are 16,384 tiny X chromosomes present in the main feature, for a grand total 65,536 arms! afro

Rendered in Mandel Machine

Original render size: 12800x12800

For high quality PNG view and download:
http://stardust4ever.deviantart.com/art/Mandel-Trek-The-EXth-Generation-481455342

I also attached Mandel Machine parameter file for convenience. Color density needs to be set to 201, not 200.
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 11:05:55 PM »

This is so extreme. You can barely see all the layers. Also you broke your own deepest rendered julia morphing record. I hope to break it again in a few weeks, but that's zooming time, not rendering time...
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 03:02:42 AM »

Truth be told, it would have been much deeper had I started with the original Magnum Opus Ex zoom path instead of the alternate Magnum Opus Ex Lite zoompath. The Lite version was 1731 zooms instead of the original's 3132. Had I used the original path, the zoom depth would be over 10,000 zooms. At the current depth, the first orbit takes around 30-40 seconds to complete. I can average ~5 zoom levels per screen by drawing tiny rectangles in the center. Zooming in thousands of zoom levels can get pretty mind numbing so I pass the time listening to my collection of CD rips. Kalles Fraktaler has a "find Minibrot" function, but it can often fail to properly locate the center with excessively complex Julia formations. So currently it is necessary to zoom manually. Mandel Machine is currently far faster than Kalles Fractaler as well. Thanks and take care...
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2014, 12:14:32 PM »

Kalles Fraktaler has a "find Minibrot" function, but it can often fail to properly locate the center with excessively complex Julia formations. So currently it is necessary to zoom manually. Mandel Machine is currently far faster than Kalles Fractaler as well. Thanks and take care...
If you access the "Find Minibrot" function via the short-keys Ctrl+M a popup will be displayed where you can type the exponent value to stop the center at.
For example if you found a nice formation at e100 and you know that it will be doubled at e150, you can put 150 in the popup (or perhaps a slightly less value to be sure you don't miss it). Then you can go grab another cup of coffee smiley

Unfortunately the "Find Minibrot" function is not 100% reliable. But usually it stops if it ends up in the void, so that you can zoom back and try again.

I will not take the the challenge with MM on speed. But the KF source is available, if you want wink
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2014, 01:15:14 PM »

If you access the "Find Minibrot" function via the short-keys Ctrl+M a popup will be displayed where you can type the exponent value to stop the center at.
For example if you found a nice formation at e100 and you know that it will be doubled at e150, you can put 150 in the popup (or perhaps a slightly less value to be sure you don't miss it). Then you can go grab another cup of coffee smiley

Unfortunately the "Find Minibrot" function is not 100% reliable. But usually it stops if it ends up in the void, so that you can zoom back and try again.

I will not take the the challenge with MM on speed. But the KF source is available, if you want wink
Thanks for the tip. Many objects in the fractal are lined up in concentric rows. Kalles Fraktaler often takes wrong turns when doing so. Your software is really good no mean to discredit you. But I tend to have a need for speed... surfing
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2014, 03:39:16 PM »

Your software is really good no mean to discredit you. But I tend to have a need for speed... surfing
How could I think you were discrediting me - the movie you did (and is doing?) is very rewarding to me! smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 04:53:24 AM »

Update: Regrettably, the first time I rendered this image, I used the wrong starter path. This resulted in an X of Xs of Xs of Xs formation with no artistic skew on the main formations. This newly rendered version has skew added. I basically had to recreate the entire Zoom path but it's here. The final render at 12800x12800 took a little over 3 hours.



Please see my deviation page for full view and 3200x3200 download.
http://stardust4ever.deviantart.com/art/Mandel-Trek-The-Exth-Generation-Reboot-6667-Zooms-509916296

I'm also uploading the 12800x12800 source PNG to Mega as well:
https://mega.co.nz/#!Twt3DKYL!LXSXc1MJ8Xh8vTteA-uwoxXNEdwdEoN4XCrUfzYsHwY

See attached for parameter file.

Coordinates:
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Zoom= 6667.133

Iteration depth ~1,450,000

 Smiling Mandelbrot

* X of Xs of Xs of Xs Final with skew.zip (2.59 KB - downloaded 76 times.)
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2015, 07:41:05 PM »

I think it's a slight improvement. The shapes are more easily visible in this version and they look more "stacked". I still don't really understand how you make things like this. I should investigate it. Maybe your technique can be combined with something that I do.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2015, 06:53:03 AM »

The "trick," if one could call it that, involves multi-replication. Zooming into one spot outside the centroid of a complex object within the Mandelbrot set will "wrap" the formation twice around the inflection point at a position roughly 1.5x the depth of the original formation. The offset I used in the first image was actually a mistake. I picked a couple different points and zoomed in a few hundred zoom levels to test the effect. The skewed version, I zoomed sideways from the center, cointing six spirals so they would skew in the same diection as the original. The original "Magnum Opus" formation was at a depth of 3132 zooms. The "Magnum Opus Lite" version was of a nearly identical formation created by using the same exact techniques, but at a lower depth due to the shorter arms. The function for "Magnum Opus" /Lite created an ")XXX/XXX(" formation with a long S-curve row in the center. This ultimately created the Magnum Opus Ex formation with the extra large bent X in the center.

However, the zoom path for the new "X of Xs of Xs of Xs" starts by choosing a new location outside the center of the )XXX/XXX( formation. The new formation resulted in two bent fragments. Zooming into one of the bent fragments ")(" results in ")X(" where each "X" is similar to the original Magnum Opus Lite "X of Xs of Xs". It's exactly the same pricess whereby you have a large central "X" with three smaller "X"s on each arm followed by a tiny bent fragment.

Multireplication can lead to all sorts of fantastic Mandelbrot patterns. The multireps could be anything, spirals, Xs, whatever.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 05:22:00 PM »

I think I understand it. It's a simple idea with awesome results.
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2015, 06:11:56 PM »

I think I understand it. It's a simple idea with awesome results.
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Nice!  wink
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