How many fractals have you personally made?

[Fractal_Artist]

I am new to your forum.  I am not new to the exploration and creation of fractals.  I got started back in 1994 after securing my own top of the line 486 DX4/100.  well, it was tops at that time.  With that machine I spent from 1994 - 2000 making 13,000 fractals.  After that I made a couple more PC (P200 & AMD K6-2/500) purchases making some ten thousand fractals per year.  For 2006 I borrowed an AMD Duron 1.2 GHz PC which allowed me to churn out 25,000-30,000 fractals in one year!  With my newest animation machines I was able to meet a HD animation deadline in two months...resulting in about 20 minutes of fractals.  To date I now have 90,104 different fractals.  This does not include the 100,000+ frames of HD fractal animation.  I actively use 3 out of 4 functioning machines to work at my fractal art (AMD K6-2/500 MHz, AMD 3.4 GHz 64-bit, P4M 2.2 GHz).

Most of my fractals can be seen on my website at www.allfractup.com

Also on my site are numerous try before you buy samples on the downloads page at:

www.allfractup.com/Downloads.html

I have three main galleries for General Use, Cross Stitch Patterns, and Posters.  (update: I also have started exploring 3D Mandelbulb type fractals.  Many of my fractals can be enhanced with ChromaDepth 3D glasses).

Who else here has created a bunch of fractals?  Do you have a web site that chronicles or features your creations?  If so, what is the URL?


Thanks,


Bruce Berryhill
Fractal Artist and Fractal Animator
Creator of nearly 100,000 fractals www.allfractup.com

[David Makin]

Hi Bruce,

Welcome to the forums.

I have no idea how many fractals I have made in total - most I either created as temporary tests that didn't even get saved as parameter files or are parameter files for fractals that I didn't consider good enough to be called fractal art or are WIP that I've never finished.
The rest of my work - what I consider to be fractal art and what I've released publicly simply to demonstrate the possibilities from my formulas for Ultra Fractal and my old MMFrac software - is on the following sites (the deviantart gallery is the most up to date):
 
http://www.fractalgallery.co.uk/
http://website.lineone.net/~dave_makin/
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?username=MakinMagic
http://djm.digitalart.org/
http://makinmagic.deviantart.com/

With some YouTube videos here:

http://www.youtube.com/makinmagicfractals

I should add I started in 1999 with Fractint on a P75 laptop.

bye
Dave

[Fractal_Artist]

Hi Bruce,

Welcome to the forums.

Thanks Dave.

I have no idea how many fractals I have made in total - most I either created as temporary tests that didn't even get saved as parameter files or are parameter files for fractals that I didn't consider good enough to be called fractal art or are WIP that I've never finished.
The rest of my work - what I consider to be fractal art and what I've released publicly simply to demonstrate the possibilities from my formulas for Ultra Fractal and my old MMFrac software - is on the following sites (the deviantart gallery is the most up to date):
 
http://www.fractalgallery.co.uk/
http://website.lineone.net/~dave_makin/
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?username=MakinMagic
http://djm.digitalart.org/
http://makinmagic.deviantart.com/

With some YouTube videos here:

http://www.youtube.com/makinmagicfractals

I should add I started in 1999 with Fractint on a P75 laptop.

Wow, your P75 was equal to my 486 DX4/100 in terms of speed.  Hey, how did you make the fractal video recordings?  I've used Photoscape to make some animated .GIFs for my downloads page.  I've been searching for the "how-to" without success.

Thanks,


Bruce

[David Makin]

Hi Bruce,

I'm on Windows XP.
I use the animation edition of Ultra Fractal - to save either as individual frame pngs or directly as an uncompressed AVI. Ultra Fractal's animation facility is quite sophistacated.
I then have various pieces of (free) video software including VirtuaDub and something called "StreamClip" that gives access to all the encodings from Quicktime for encoding stuff rather than just playback - obviously you need Quicktime installed for that (just the free version).

bye
Dave

[Nahee_Enterprises]

To date I now have 90,104 different fractals.
Most of my fractals can be seen on my website...

Who else here has created a bunch of fractals?
Do you have a web site that chronicles or features your creations?

I found out quite early, when I was a very young child, that quality was better than quantity.  This pertained to whatever I used, bought, or made.  I would much rather spend hours on a single item to make sure it was exactly what I wanted, than to have several of less quality.

As to others which have created many fractals, there are quite a few people, and those sites are easily found around the Internet.  I personally never bothered to count the thousands I have rendered over the years.

And your site states:  "For years I was the first to make unique fractal T-shirts...".   I do not believe that is a true statement.  You should word it that you "thought you were the first".  Because fractal T-shirts (and other items) were being made before you even started making fractals.

BTW, do any of these names mean anything to you:
  Bob S. Laquer, Purplegoo2, psikill4, whiteboy1, mraging, bagemage

[bib]

I found out quite early, when I was a very young child, that quality was better than quantity.  This pertained to whatever I used, bought, or made.  I would much rather spend hours on a single item to make sure it was exactly what I wanted, than to have several of less quality.

Making thousands of fractals a year cannot be an artistic activity, too industrial

BTW, do any of these names mean anything to you:
  Bob S. Laquer, Purplegoo2, psikill4, whiteboy1, mraging, bagemage

Aren't Fractal_Artist and Purplegoo2 the same person ?

[Fractal_Artist]

Hi Bruce,

I'm on Windows XP.
I use the animation edition of Ultra Fractal - to save either as individual frame pngs or directly as an uncompressed AVI. Ultra Fractal's animation facility is quite sophistacated.
I then have various pieces of (free) video software including VirtuaDub and something called "StreamClip" that gives access to all the encodings from Quicktime for encoding stuff rather than just playback - obviously you need Quicktime installed for that (just the free version).

David,

Thanks for the software tips,


Bruce

[Fractal_Artist]

To date I now have 90,104 different fractals.
Most of my fractals can be seen on my website...

Who else here has created a bunch of fractals?
Do you have a web site that chronicles or features your creations?

Paul,

Is it your opinion that a person who makes plenty of fractals is skipping quality in favor of quantity?  Is it not possible to have both?  There are some people who like spending hours working on a single fractal.  I have the ability to do that.  My machines are fast enough to render up to 20,480 by 15,360 DPI.  That is not the sort of thing I do routinely just for the sake of doing it.  When someone wants to buy a super huge wall mural, car wrap, or billboard-sized fractal I can accommodate them. 


I found out quite early, when I was a very young child, that quality was better than quantity.  This pertained to whatever I used, bought, or made.  I would much rather spend hours on a single item to make sure it was exactly what I wanted, than to have several of less quality.


Each of my fractals are what I want, exactly.  I do not have a single fractal that I do not like.  I have spent years exploring fractals which has given me great pleasure.  Why is it so bad to have found delight in making so many fractals?  Was there something I said to you at some time in the past that gives you reason to talk about me like this?

As to others which have created many fractals, there are quite a few people, and those sites are easily found around the Internet.  I personally never bothered to count the thousands I have rendered over the years.

Okay.  I know you run a web site that charts and details everything fractal.  Heck, I'm even on there.  Sort of surprising considering the apparent disdain you have for me or my fractals.  Are you one of those snooty Apophysis or Ultra Fractal types?  The ones who prefer to spend needless time on bloated software that takes way too long to render a single fractal that then gobbles up oodles of space?  Because that is the way you are acting...in my opinion.    I don't know who pee'd in your cereal, but take it out on me.

And your site states:  "For years I was the first to make unique fractal T-shirts...".   I do not believe that is a true statement.  You should word it that you "thought you were the first".  Because fractal T-shirts (and other items) were being made before you even started making fractals.


Actually what I was writing about was I was the first to make one-of-a-kind (unique) fractal t-shirts.  This was based on a Google search.  At that time the statement was true.  And the other assertions that I have made were also true based on context and time of the Google searches.

BTW, do any of these names mean anything to you:
  Bob S. Laquer, Purplegoo2, psikill4, whiteboy1, mraging, bagemage

Absolutely.  Those are all aliases I have used over the years.  What of it?  In fact I see one, two, three, five that I still use. 


It sure has been swell catching up like this.  We should do it more often.


Bruce Berryhill
aka  Bob S. Laquer, Purplegoo2, psikill4, whiteboy1, mraging, bagemage, (and a slew you failed to mention)

[Fractal_Artist]

I found out quite early, when I was a very young child, that quality was better than quantity.  This pertained to whatever I used, bought, or made.  I would much rather spend hours on a single item to make sure it was exactly what I wanted, than to have several of less quality.

Making thousands of fractals a year cannot be an artistic activity, too industrial

I have to disagree.  Plenty of artists have made "industrial" art.  Let me ask you this...what is your opinion of Andy Worhol?  Didn't he also churn out art?  Isn't that the same thing?  Andy is revered by some as some sort of artist god / genius for his approach to art.  Having the computing power to create ten thousand fractals per month does not automatically mean each fractal is not art.  And it doesn't mean they are low quality either.  I would prefer to have efficient use of my time.  That is why I have made the investment it terribly fast computers.  To achieve the goals that I have set for myself.

To render posters and wall murals in one day or less was a goal I have achieved.  It used to take days or weeks to do that with my previous render station.  To make HD fractal animations in time for the 2008 Roswell CABYs I had to buy a faster render station.  If I hadn't there is no way a half gigahertz PC was ever going to hit my deadline in time.  Consider this:

500 MHz machine yields 10,000 fractals per year.
3.4 GHz 64-bit machine yields 10,000 fractals per month.

I hit my deadline only because of the new machine's use.  I now use the faster machine for a number of activities.  Streamlined efficiencies help me to make huge fractals, new animation segments, new HD fractals as posters, games, DVDs, etc.  So if that makes me guilty of "industrialization" then so be it. 


Aren't Fractal_Artist and Purplegoo2 the same person ?

I've used loads of aliases over the years.  Lots of people have.  What is your point?

[bib]

I've used loads of aliases over the years.  Lots of people have.  What is your point?

OK I did not understand these were all your aliases. So I would better ask : what did Nahee_Enterprise ask you this question ? 

Don't be upset. You are your own and first fan and that what's count. Doing fractals is very personal. If you do 100 similar images in 10 minutes by sliding a few parameters and these 100 images are pleasant to you, where is the problem ?

You obvisously enjoy endlessly doing thousands of fractals, but please allow me to "apo"logize : I don't think these images are really art :

http://www.allfractup.com/Fractal_Catalog/General_Use/Volume021/Gen0002.html

I picked up this page randomly in your site. Why don't you settle on one interseting picture or shape and try to find the best coloring formula, the best gradient, the best effects, etc...instead of doing over and over again the same image with some slightly different parametrers ?

Maybe you could pick the best image from each page instead of publishing what seems to be tons of drafts.

In fact, there are probably hundreds of fantastic pictures on your site, but these are hidden in the mass...

At the end of the day, if you are satisfied with your work and moreover, if you made some (big?) money out of it, it's perfect

This is just my opinion. 

Kind Regards

[lycium]

bib said it perfectly

[Fractal_Artist]

David,

I like the fractals you've made.  Bright, color filled, nicely shaped, a good mix of variety.  Thank you for sharing them with me.

Bruce

Hi Bruce,

Welcome to the forums.

I have no idea how many fractals I have made in total - most I either created as temporary tests that didn't even get saved as parameter files or are parameter files for fractals that I didn't consider good enough to be called fractal art or are WIP that I've never finished.
The rest of my work - what I consider to be fractal art and what I've released publicly simply to demonstrate the possibilities from my formulas for Ultra Fractal and my old MMFrac software - is on the following sites (the deviantart gallery is the most up to date):
 
http://www.fractalgallery.co.uk/
http://website.lineone.net/~dave_makin/
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?username=MakinMagic
http://djm.digitalart.org/
http://makinmagic.deviantart.com/

With some YouTube videos here:

http://www.youtube.com/makinmagicfractals

I should add I started in 1999 with Fractint on a P75 laptop.

bye
Dave

[Fractal_Artist]

I've used loads of aliases over the years.  Lots of people have.  What is your point?

OK I did not understand these were all your aliases. So I would better ask : what did Nahee_Enterprise ask you this question ? 

You'd have to ask him.  Or maybe he'll write back and we can all find out.

Don't be upset.

I wasn't upset. 

You are your own and first fan and that what's count. Doing fractals is very personal. If you do 100 similar images in 10 minutes by sliding a few parameters and these 100 images are pleasant to you, where is the problem ?

The opinion(s) you express here seems to indicate you have a problem with the fractals I have made. 

You obvisously enjoy endlessly doing thousands of fractals, but please allow me to "apo"logize : I don't think these images are really art.

Why do you feel they are not art?  Are you a flame maker?  Push a few triangles around the screen (as opposed to sliders) and viola you've got some whiffy looking poof of light?  It looked like you might be an Apo user with your "apo"logy.

http://www.allfractup.com/Fractal_Catalog/General_Use/Volume021/Gen0002.html

I picked up this page randomly in your site.

You couldn't have picked the second page at random.  You would have had to navigate to it.  It could appear you chose this page to support your opinion.  I wonder why you did not bring up the fractals on volume 21 page 1?  The shapes are more varied on that page.  What you are seeing is the progression of my explorations into shape, detail, interference patterns, and color themes.

Why don't you settle on one interseting picture or shape and try to find the best coloring formula, the best gradient, the best effects, etc...instead of doing over and over again the same image with some slightly different parametrers ?

First off, you are assuming that is what I have done with everything.  Or, that is what I have done with the "randomly chosen" set of fractals on page 2 of volume 21.  Is that the sort of thing you do with your fractals or flames?  Dwell on a single item until you've tweaked it to death?  Why should I concentrate on one single image to extract the "perfect balance of gradient, color, effects, etc"?  In my opinion that would be a waste of my time.  Absolutely dreadful and boring.

Here is an example of variance that you could have chosen "at random" from the General Use page:

http://www.allfractup.com/Fractal_Catalog/General_Use/Trippy_Plasma_Fractals/Trippy0001.html
http://www.allfractup.com/Color_Themes.html

"Hidden among the mass" are 12,039 trippy themed fractals.  These were the result of searching my collection to meet specific requirements for a customer.  I used a portion of these as background visuals for his band.  I now use these for my nine Trippy DVDs.

Maybe you could pick the best image from each page instead of publishing what seems to be tons of drafts.

None of my fractals are drafts.  The majority of them can be re-generated into something fantastically huge.  It has been my experience the very ones you claim aren't art are the ones that are most artistic when printed as a wall mural.  Many times I have found details that weren't visible at a smaller resolution.  Perhaps if I had the money to invest in a quad HD TV I could explore those regions better


What would be the point of choosing a scant handful of fractals when I can let the customer or visitor decide for themselves what is or is not art?  What they do or do not like?  It sure worked here.  My web site is set to show all of my fractals.

In fact, there are probably hundreds of fantastic pictures on your site, but these are hidden in the mass...

There are a good many more than hundreds of fantastic pictures on my site.

At the end of the day, if you are satisfied with your work and moreover, if you made some (big?) money out of it, it's perfect

This is just my opinion. 

Well I don't need to make (big?) money to be perfectly satisfied at the end of the day.  You "sound" familiar.  Like someone I have worked with.

Kind Regards

[bib]

You "sound" familiar.  Like someone I have worked with.

I don't think we ever met before.

In general I understand your point, and I really chose the page randomly

BTW, welcome to the forum !

[GFWorld]

Hi Bruce,

I read this thread here now ...

That´s a never ending story , trying to make it short :

I agree here with lyciums comment > bib said it perfectly
 :-)))
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To say it with own words: Not Quantity is really important - Quality should have always priority.

Margit