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« on: March 28, 2009, 04:41:49 PM »

Hello to all here..  I am new to this forum... You all certainly have some great information and reading on here.  Enjoying myself.  I have been making fractals for just a few mths now & really loving it.  I was entranced by them from the very 1st glance when viewing them in another site I was posting photographs ect.  on.  Ok.. well.. thats about it on me..   howdy
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2009, 07:55:49 PM »

hello and welcome to the forum, i think you are quite young ( under 20 years )

nice to see another name here cheesy

be sure to check out the fractalfoprums.com spring 2009  fractal art contest police police

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2009, 08:14:11 PM »

I like to think of myself as still under 20.. hahahah..   But no... Well past that age..   Thanks for the welcome CK..  Nice to see a reply...   cheesy

I will go ck it all out.. Been on here most of the day reading thru all the many posts..  Lots of interesting stuff...   Thanks again.. Very nice~
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 12:33:49 AM »

Welcome.

Just to also say it's nice to have someone new here smiley

You'll find lots of useful info on most aspects of fractals here - in particular relating to fractal art and some of the fractal maths, though not all that much on the actual scientific application of fractals (which is a rapidly growing area in a wider sense).

I'd be interested to know what software you've tried so far and how you're finding it.....
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 03:54:47 AM »

Hi Dave.  Thanks for the welcome..  I started out just a few months back with Tierazon & Sterling 2 then of recent have been playing with Incendia and Apop-MBF. Learning I am...  I had joined a few share sites but I find that that the time spent there did not lend to learning-applying very much for me..  I am a photographer for many years now and love that artform very much, but decide to search for a place to exp. the world of fractals.  This artform has really gotton my attention and admiration. Amazing stuff indeed.  Again. I appreciate your warm welcome. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2009, 04:07:44 AM »

as a photgrapher you may know the effect of filming a filom with a camnera,

an easy experiment can be made with a webcam, just let it point to the area of the screen where the output window of the camera is, and move

basically you have a self similar fractal here, like in a mirror ...

#just wanted to say
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2009, 04:26:55 AM »

Thanks Trifox...  When I think of filom technique. I instantly think of old b/w film makers and thier wonderful use of streetlights at night.  I appreciate your time to comment too.  smiley
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2009, 12:07:03 PM »

Hello to all here..  I am new to this forum and wanted to join a community of others that I might be able to chat with and learn from.....  I started out just a few months back with Tierazon & Sterling 2 then of recent have been playing with Incendia and Apop.  Not great at any of them I will admit.  However....  a highly driven desire to learn them.  As many & as much as I can.  See which ones work best with my brain to begin a deeper understanding of the creation methods.

Greetings, and welcome to this particular Forum !!     smiley

Stephen C. Ferguson's programs are very good to use for many reasons, and they are still quite popular amongst many "fractalers" around the world.  So beginning with Tiera-Zon and SterlingWare was a nice choice (though I have not spent a lot of time with Tad Boniecki's version with the 50 new formulae).

And Ramiro PÚrez's latest programming effort seems to be gaining a following as well.  It will be interesting to see where he goes with Incendia, and if he will continue supporting it for a long period of time.

As to learning as many as you can, that might take a very, very long time, especially since there are close to 600 programs available in some form:
   http://www.fractalforums.com/fractal-related-links/finding-fractal-related-software/

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2009, 05:00:38 PM »

I like Tierazon very much probaly because I am most familar with that one.

If you need any .INK and/or .ZAR files to play around with, I have a few from my full collection which are publicly available.

Also this week started playing with MBF lite (free version)  I am enjoying its ease of use and speed.

Yes, Paul Carlson wrote a very popular application (and method of coloring).  I have some User-Equations that can be used with MBF:
    http://www.nahee.com/Software/MBF_UserEqns.zip

I see that I need to go buy some books so that I can understand about pars & buffers ect.

There is a ton of useful information already available on the Internet in the way of tutorials, definitions, descriptions, etc...   And they vary in formats:  .DOC, .TXT, .HTML, .PDF, etc...   All freely available without having to spend money in these difficult financial times.     smiley

I have dedicated my free time to learning so I do hope to be able to speak with others here in the future with a least a basic knowledge of terms and use.  I realize how advanced most here are...

As to the very basics:

FORMULAS are the mathematical statements (especially equations) of a fact, rule, principle, or other logical relation, used to perform the basic calculations of fractal images.   Many fractal generating applications are capable of using various formulae, whether hardcoded within the program or using a formula parser.

PARAMETERS are the constants in an equation that vary in other equations of the same general form.   They are values supplied to, and used by, a formula within the generating application.   These are established by the user of the software to adjust various settings, quantities, etc. to achieve varied results in the image itself.

IMAGES are the the pictorial representation as used in computer-aided design, the process by which a computer displays data pictorially.

MAPS, or GRADIENTS, are the color palettes used to cause variations in the way an IMAGE may be colored.   (Thousands of these are in the public domain already.)

The PARAMETERS and IMAGES made by an individual are their own property, and are considered to be copyrighted.   Any use by another person of said items should require the permission by the creator/author/originator.   Whereas FORMULAS are usually considered to be public domain, and virtually can not cause an IMAGE without supplying PARAMETERS.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2009, 05:18:52 PM »

a very good movie introduction to fractals can be found here:

http://www.fractalforums.com/introduction-to-fractals/the-mandelbrot-set/

direct link:
http://mandelbrotset.net/tutorial.html
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2009, 05:22:54 PM »

Thanks so much Nahee.. I so appreciate your share~ 
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2009, 05:25:42 PM »

Gonna head there this afternoon Trifox..  T.Y...  smiley
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2009, 05:47:28 PM »

....a gift cert for Barnes & Noble for Christmas.  In hopes I might find resources to learn from.
Are there any books (videos-anything sold in a book store) in particular you would recommend for a beginner to start from?

To learn about fractals, there are a dozen really good books which have been around for years, but these are geared towards the mathematics.  And they can be obtained from a used book store for much less than the original price.  PBS usually airs a couple of videos on fractals ever so often, and they may be obtained as well.

To learn about the "art" part of fractals, the choices are extremely limited when it comes to books.  And of course they would be written in the view point of what that person decides what is "art".  I personally can not see how such a book could be objectively written.

Or did you mean books and videos on the creation of images using specific fractal generating programs ??

Even when it comes to rendering the images I have created.  I am always uncertain of whats a correct choice from program to program.

Learning what a program is capable of, and learning how to control as much as one can with a specific application, takes lots of time and practice.  Some people pick it up faster than others, some only learn one or two programs (and no more), others just like to play with the programs and have fun (more like a hobby).

You need to decide what it is you are wanting to get from the learning.  And, if you are going for sales of "fractal art", then that usually means developing your own style.  (I can usually see a few images by any of several hundred fractal image makers and know who the person was that created them, because of their style.)
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2009, 06:22:09 PM »

Books &/or videos on creating them using specific programs would be cool.. Anything is good really.  I have to spend the g.c. there since they do not refund them..  I do alot of flying in my job and they thought it would serve me well to have them to read onboard.

I wish to create them for my own enjoyment and if ever had a style that was uniqe in any way I sure would try to sell them..   Why not. I myself have bought many from others and fiqure some might buy a few of mine over time..  Don't expect to make a living from it ..lol.. but would really love to be able to manipulate the programs with knoweldge vs: chance..

I too have been able to identify the artist by the style in the site I played on..  Some fine artists on display all about..   

I am going to spend this afternoon looking thru the info I have gathered from this site so far.   Mabie consider posting a few of mine here to share with anyone who might be interested in seeing what my style is at this point..  undecided.  I assume I would use the insert image icon above to do so?  Guess I should make them smaller too huh..  Thanks again Nahee.  It has been delightful meeting you..smiley
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2009, 07:57:49 PM »

Hi Lj Maxx.

why did you become fastinated by fractals?
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