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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2012, 04:10:09 AM » |
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my feelings are hurt easily I give up trying to share the way i do things
the worlds funny that way
you would think in a capitalist marketplace people would be jumping all over even slight innovations
if they were offered for free
all i did was implement IFS in photoshop
so why arn't other people trying it
you don't think i seriously can't tell witch fractals are hand iterated
they have tiny tell tale signs i look for
other than my q fractals
about 3 other people on the entire internet have done it
and most tryed and left
i mastered it
and now all i want to do is share it
i am old school like M.C. Escher
if your are a moderator please deleat my thread it is an embarrassing failure
this world is strange
did i ever say i invented any of this i don't remember
what ever
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2012, 04:32:04 AM » |
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I would say first and foremost:
* Breath
Next:
* Continue breathing
[Sometimes I give myself 2 hours and nothing but breathing.]
Everything else you do is frosting on the cake. Keep it up and keep learning. Beautiful work you have done. I encourage you to keep doing what you love wholeheartedly. Some of them explore with a program, and others explore with a brush.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2012, 09:37:53 AM » |
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Matty, I think this is nice, but... Don't feel bad, just accept this isn't going to start a revolution, and that it is not something really new, besides the fact that you are using PS. Calm down. Keep working and getting better, show us how good you can be doing this fractals-by-hand, and if you work hard you will have your recognition. I'll be looking after your works. Regards, Kali P.S.: I don't have an external HD
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2012, 11:33:03 AM » |
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P.S.: I don't have an external HD I NEED to buy it!!! Okay Matt again I say; Whenever I see somebody screaming "I revolutionized the world, c'mon and see!" I am curious of what he did, because after 30 years of fractals (and thousand years of geometry) it's really hard to make something radically new! And when it happens it is never announced in this way! So okay!!! OKAY! - Make your fractals by hand everybody loves them but only stop screaming it's a new concept okay? Don't feel sad but ... keep reading and learning! You can become the best
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2012, 01:32:39 PM » |
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awe thanks
and i will stop saying that
please change the thread title to an interesting way to do fractals with photoshop
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2012, 05:55:01 PM » |
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awe thanks
and i will stop saying that
please change the thread title to an interesting way to do fractals with photoshop
No need to do so but you can edit your 1st post in any moment
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2012, 12:10:41 AM » |
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ok i think this brings up a bigger issue it seams that there is a lack of software that does this job in an easy manner and all in one place photoshop has everything i need were as these other programs are underdeveloped java projects If you seriously think Xenodream is "under-developed" then you need to take a much longer look at it Check out the work of Joseph Presley for instance.... http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?user_id=107790&member
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2012, 01:24:43 PM » |
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sorry I love xenodream i was referring to a different response "the algorithmic botany page you gave me I like it but i can't do anything with it" but xenodream is cool i used it to make make stuff but lost track of my license key i think my dad has it
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2012, 10:08:34 PM » |
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The most important thing on the algorithmic botany page is the downloadable version of "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" rather than any downloadable software I guess one of the points I'm trying to make is that one *really, really old* description of how to make fractals is the infinite copy machine and the hand-made "fractals" made with general gfx software are essentially adaptations of this where the user is in control of each stage of duplication. I'm still trying to design a piece of software that will effectively incorporate all fractal possibilities in an easy to use interface so that even the type of art you are creating is easy to do via a controlled interface in a much easier and faster way than the "photoshop" method but with just as much user-control - the problem at the moment is I'm still finding new things to add and because I want it to be all inclusive every time I find something not catered for I start over - this project is the main reason why the class-based version of my 3D formula for UF and the 3D IFS formula that adds use of primitives for DTIFS etc. are both on hold - or in fact cancelled altogether as the plan is to include both in a single piece of software along with everything else.
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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2012, 11:03:10 PM » |
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Want to be the fractal Einstein? Luca
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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2012, 01:40:03 AM » |
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Photoshop is like the infinite copy machine
that's whats so special
my secret sub intent with my book is to show people which features are important
and witch are not so we can make a piece of software based on gimp eventually
the problames with gimp are it cant free-transform multiple layers at a time it has no smart objects (tm)
and it's free transform tool is slow and cumbersome in addition many of my new fractals require the Photoshop puppet-warp tool (tm)
so photoshop is the best for now
but i challenge you to collaborate with the makers of gimp and (inkscape (has a good free-transform tool))
and get them to work together with you on building the ultimate fractal designer's tool
the challenge will be great but it will be in the interest of the entire 2d fractal art community
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2012, 01:48:21 AM » |
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or maby not
maybe no one cares about people who struggle with algebraic math and programming because of learning disibilitys but are great at geometry and other art
David this is for you DON'T GIVE UP!!!!!! Please!!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2012, 02:22:30 AM » |
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Sorry Matty. Gimp users have been waiting years for Gimp 2.8 and it doesn't look like it will be ready in the near future. on top of that, if development releases are anything to go by, for all its hype improvements are minimal. Gimp users for years have wanted adjustment layers but have been ignored. Hats off to the team for giving away a fantastic product free of charge but if you already have Photoshop, I would stick to that and don't expect too much from Gimp!
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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2012, 10:12:10 AM » |
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give incendia a try, it is the most undervalued and sophisticated fractal object creation program that i know, although i havent used it extensively, it is heavily versatile and intuitive in creating fractal structures!
check out the photoshop section here, some nice additional plugins are available for photoshop
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