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ChristopherLowe
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« on: June 02, 2011, 10:25:40 AM »

I wrote a little program in java that uses mandelbrot escape orbits and a word frequency list to generate poetry.  Here is some output, untouched by human hands:

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that it he have to be it
for it not he they
they there to from ..in it
I need work ... have to in in ..in
in it .train have that ..it
I in have it .it
with not he .that have
it they .... other have we this
will which but this at at on at would
which any do this at this you do one man
time over know do at not on on this on on she
she at at we from who one year
may back this make she as not with

It obviously still needs some work, but it is already producing some very impressive output - the sentence structures are much more realistic than a plain random sentence generator and about 1/1000th the work involved in a lexical/canocial sentence generator.

What do you think? Is there some potential here?
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ChristopherLowe
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 11:06:38 AM »

Here is some more output:
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never where get out see to take one no before
high first who one there on much null there then
get before go then all all take but get take
write on on all more one no when time than
see time at take find go you so be find
null long before to who this any must so when
could all see back much these now this much could
only see then only down than or find more most
no you any for as so who go only down
down year year be who back or well this see

line home just just find
yet write just just find
death another write just find
outside another just find
yet another just find find
null yet home just find
actual care let just find
body measure report find
home stick problem find
home curious write find
find find more more

problem private  .burn report pencil let just
class  null snow problem just
  null home just
  null home home
  solve home another
  body home another
  shoulder line another
  sometime let another
  road another
  invite another

 yet another another write write
 null home write write just
 .line home write just
 .direct private home just
  .report another
  .report report
 .touch progress problem another
 .let line write another
 .line write write write
 class home home write write


little little get can part will still little little take
still part way first good day between to way own
for go must be find I when more than find
such all it could most take find and null any
you when there see down one no but who time
down when out much much you more way go as
time no must any long and any any he most
as time back you then all to such must only
when way also down these be take out any more
so by which to of to out for make he


And my favourite so far:
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go be blood be around be human .
these be sure .
over be poet be poem be experience the cry the .
when be such be among .
when be spirit be or be shall the program the .
at be last be any be group the grow the .
can the dependent the river the play the fix the .
make the recommend the date the idea the not the .
at the top the product the enter the command the .
the field the game the over the each the sometimes .
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barkeg
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2011, 10:55:31 PM »

Nice!! I really like the last one!
Would be nice to see some more recent wink
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ChristopherLowe
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2011, 05:13:09 AM »

Thanks barkeg!


If you are interested, I have uploaded the source code to my bitbucket account. You can find it here:
https://bitbucket.org/ChrisLowe/textbrot
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ChristopherLowe
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2011, 05:36:15 AM »

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never question other.
give so much this there I as over all.


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critic century expect name problem.

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experience question set seed.
every problem part private best name problem back

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expect to name girl take one this all I he and
around woman around hand year


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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 11:06:23 PM »

Nice!

I'll take definitely a look at the code!

I just had a crazy idea: You could put the generated lyrics in a voice synthesizer and create a audio file. Now with an other program you could creat a melody in a midi file (there are a lot of programs out there). Using auto-tuning you can make the voice following the melody. That way you could creat an entire song created by fractals wink
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 11:28:04 AM »

This is wild wink
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 12:24:08 PM »

hah, nice stuff.
Though it almost seems like the orbits are too regular for language: Many words are repeated way too often in one sentence or in sentences that follow each other. It looks like you need more sophisticated details...

Maybe you can somehow manage to create those words by following a Zipf-Madelbrot Law...
That or the simpler Zipf's Law is how language and music apparently is organized.

Maybe this helps: http://1.1o1.in/en/webtools/semantic-depth
And if you know French or can get the maths out of this without knowing French, then maybe that: The Parabolic fractal distribution
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filagree
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 02:32:07 PM »

I keep imagining Leonard Cohen or William Shatner reading/singing the lines- not so much for the content as the quiet mantra like vibe your creation elicits. What is more important here, the programming or the generated words...? Or is it all indivisible ? For a completed piece might a person use the bulk of the Mandelbrot but edit it for 'greater' effect..? What is happening when it inserts the word null ?
Am sure you've continued to have fun with this. smooth....
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2012, 02:28:24 AM »

Haha, I just found some things that might be slightly related:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_while_John_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_a_better_effect_on_the_teacher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_that_is_is_that_that_is_not_is_not_is_that_it_it_is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-Eating_Poet_in_the_Stone_Den

It's probably this kind of sentences, your Mandelbrot language creator uses, heh...
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2012, 11:53:54 AM »

 laugh Those Wiki pages are brilliant! I reminded of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Perec

Here the longest two-sided poem in italian; http://www.sironi.tk/11luglio1982.html

It can be readed from the last letter from the first as well! cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2012, 01:57:26 PM »

Most Excellent!! I love that. Is it possible to try the program?
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2012, 07:04:16 PM »

Too bad my Italian is limited to the mere basics of basics, heh...
It's certainly a lot of work to come up with something that's the same read in either direction. I really wonder how to come up with something like it...
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 07:48:19 PM »

 wink Some words are very "immaginative". It was written a long time ago, entirely by hand with a lot of talent I think! grin
In italian there are many possible sentences readable in two directions because it's a "wide" language and most words begin with consonant and end with wovels Azn
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2012, 07:52:43 PM »

I could not resist to try a simple poetry program in C. dancing banana dancing banana dancing banana

It's flexible; you can build your own dictionary in your language... But each word must be of length < 14 and max 500 words for each dictionary (three distinct dics)

Try it nasty teeth >> next page!
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