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« on: June 10, 2011, 10:59:13 AM »
Sorry if to some the question might appear nonsensical or even naive.  As I see more and more interpretations of fractals it seems that every mechanical structure, space and even concepts are already encoded in the mathematical formula from which fractals are derived.  Is this  because maths is simply a representation of our physical reality, space, shapes, forces etc.? Why does everything appear to already be, 'in there'?
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 11:58:39 AM »
Quote from: domehead on June 10, 2011, 10:59:13 AM
Sorry if to some the question might appear nonsensical or even naive.  As I see more and more interpretations of fractals it seems that every mechanical structure, space and even concepts are already encoded in the mathematical formula from which fractals are derived.  Is this  because maths is simply a representation of our physical reality, space, shapes, forces etc.? Why does everything appear to already be, 'in there'?

I have yet to see a decent Fractal Cow.

And yes, I think since Math was created to describe The Universe that it would be even more of a shock if we never found such things in it.  That would imply our Math is inadequate to the task for which it was created.   afro
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 12:41:58 PM »
Fascinating.  Now you've said that, how long do you think it will be before someone on FF comes up with one? A Beer Cup
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 04:42:46 AM »
Quote from: Sockratease on June 10, 2011, 11:58:39 AM
I have yet to see a decent Fractal Cow.

Here's one I like.



It's from http://www.mndl.hu/works/fractalcow. Authorship is credited as
idea: Gabor Csordas, Gabor Papp
modelling & programming: Gabor Papp

The image carries a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 2.5 Hungary License. I originally saw it in the Orbit Trap Fractal Art Collection.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 07:18:18 AM »
I like Fractal Clock

It's from http://www.funtasticus.com/2008/07/08/daily-selection-177/

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 12:31:21 PM »
Imo, orbit traps are a kind of cheat with fractals... And no, there is no chance to encode all in a formula, and so many fantastic formulas have to be written jet smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 01:02:31 PM »
Quote from: Vega on July 28, 2011, 07:18:18 AM
I like Fractal Clock

It's from http://www.funtasticus.com/2008/07/08/daily-selection-177/
me wanna have!
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 01:11:37 PM »
Nice Cow! 

Quote from: DarkBeam on July 28, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
Imo, orbit traps are a kind of cheat with fractals...

You say that as if it's a bad thing   clown

Cheating in Art is what it's all about!

Sort of...

I just love any tools that work to enhance other Art Projects.  The more and different tools I can use to get any one finished product, the better.

But I do know what you mean  afro
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2011, 04:23:00 PM »
I'm wondering, what is meant by orbit traps being a cheat?  And is it implied that the cheat somehow cheapens or invalidates the fractal image?
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 05:55:22 PM »
Quote from: lkmitch on July 28, 2011, 04:23:00 PM
I'm wondering, what is meant by orbit traps being a cheat?  And is it implied that the cheat somehow cheapens or invalidates the fractal image?

It's usually a reference to putting photographs in orbit traps.  Some people insist that makes it "No longer a fractal" - but I insist it still is, just a fractal with a VERY different sort of coloring algorithm!
(It's Lissa {my fiancee} of course!)



I know I post that a lot, but it's to answer a question this time!

Really   afro
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