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I don't want to cause any problems in the forum. I'm not on drugs, and I never do any illegal drug, I didn't tried even marijuana. But, for research purposes, I smoked Salvia Divinorum a few times. It's not a recreational drug. It's something really different from any other drug, and the ways the substance is believed to act in the brain, it's also totally unrelated to other psychedelics. I don't like even to call it a "drug", because it leads to comparisons with other unrelated and bad stuff, so I think the right word is "entheogen"  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen

Here in my country, and in most places, the plant is legal. But I'm aware it's illegal in some places, so if this can lead to any problems or the administrators thinks this post is not suitable for this forum, I will delete it.

I don't encourage anyone to smoke salvia, although it's almost proved that is not addictive, and there are no serious risks, even with high doses (but always having a sitter), this isn't this post's purpose, so please don't take it as a drug apology.

My experiences with Salvia are such difficult to explain, that I won't do it for now. It's hard for me writing in english, it takes me a lot of time to find the correct words, even with easy ideas, so I should not be able to express myself correctly this intriguing experiences, as it's very difficult to do even on my first language.

All that I can tell you, is that my interest in fractals are related somehow to this experiences. You won't believe me, but I've seen (and feel) 2D fractal shapes and even 3D figures that I've recalled when later I saw for the first time mandelbulb & mandelbox images. I was truly amazed because I found many that were very similar to what I saw!

Today, searching for "salvia+fractal" on google, I found this experience report that comes very close to some of mine, and I want to share it with you, as for now, and maybe if you are interested I'll try later to write my own.

Here's the link for the trip report:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=61015

Information about Salvia:
http://www.sagewisdom.org/

I appreciate your comments and thoughts.

Rather than thinking you are weird or out of bounds, acknowledge the cultural significance of enthogens and realise that the experiences are the same because the cause is the same which is discussed in a scientific context here.

Hey!
Have you seen things like this : (watch in 720p or download the movie in high quality) ?
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/1Mb3mssgPhw&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/1Mb3mssgPhw&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>

It is from the beginning of the movie "Enter the void".


Interesting testimony BTW. I've heard this plant is legal too in France.

I forgot to thank you Kali for this post ! (I'm ten months late )
It is very powerful, introspective and leads to metaphysical questions.. but I didn't see fractals at all .

The first time I experimented with salvia, the table in front of me unfolded into a fractal image that resembled this:



The stuff isn't for everyone, but it can certainly bring the fractal aspect of nature to life.