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« on: November 21, 2012, 01:27:55 AM »

Still hammering this one out...

 
If Meaning uses purpose to create or protect the meaning.

The meaning of Life is any purpose in creating or protecting Life.

The meaning of Death is any purpose in creating or protecting Death.

The meaning of anything is the purpose in creating or protecting the meaning of that anything.

If the Purpose is to destroy a meaning, this is not the Purpose of the meaning.

The purpose must protect the meaning in order to have purpose.

The meaning of life is not death.
Because Life's purpose is not Death

The meaning of death is not life
Because Death's purpose is not Life

The meaning of Life is Love when the purpose of Love creates Life.

The meaning of Life is Fear when the purpose of Fear protects Life.

Basically boiled down, If Meaning has it's Purpose, it's Meaning is Meaningful.

So long as there is Purpose to Meaning, it's Purpose will become it's Meaning.

Life...
The meaning of life is it's purpose.
Its purposes can be, Love, Healing, Protecting, Care, etc...so long as these purposes Create or Sustain Life.

Death...
The meaning of death is it's purpose.
It's purposes can be, Fear, Murder, Ignorance, etc...so long as these purposes Create or Sustain Death.

The Meaning of Meaning is to have it's Purpose.

The Meaning of Purpose is to be it`s Meaning.

Meaning without Purpose has no Meaning.

Purpose Protects or Creates its Meaning.

Meaning Needs it's Purpose.

Purpose Loves it's Meaning.

The Meaning of Life is it's Purpose and it's Purpose is to Create or Protect it's Meaning.

...Ashes Mi...
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2012, 04:55:48 AM »

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Greetings and Salutations again, Kevinmorais aka : thinker of the deep, a human specie who speaks and does not sleep!

The meaning of life is no bodies business?

Diagnosis Critéria :
Your verbal Compositionality  : Articulate and balanced and inquisitivitory : verbalistic construct : Data : purpose decipher puzzle : Data : Fractal Life Puzzle ? Data : Define meaning as it pertains to your puzzle concepts of the definition of what life is doing alive, and its meaning, purpose and why? : Data : And the resigning yourself to ascertain truth, applied, signifies tellingly, the subject matter complexity for the human thinking processor. Your word, wrestles with its hard to understand story, revealing light that is just right, just right, from black to white, baited overwhelmingly with the innate human limitation in its present non enhanced form, is poorly equipped, but it is with admiration we give you praise for at lease one, being willing to express the Un-expressible given the constrains you're under because of the time and age you were born in.  That curiosity curve loops around and around with all its might! Interesting , very interesting. Thanks we'd like you 2 do more!

Diagnosis Critéria  : curriculum : cosmicality tech based fundamentally intrepidity by those whose main determinant is inconceivability by the humanity left behind due to its legacy of Un-pragmatic performances failed and left in
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But, please allow us, the levity brevity, to contribute to your puzzle Un muzzled! We are wrong is our song! But contribute what we can : consider  : Data :

Life is opposite of non life, by products of both are which are natural centripetal manifestations using all means, meaning including branches sacred geometry harmonic actions similar to bio chemical, electrical ,mathematical, aurorarical mechanical, protocolic protonics, un inhibited radicals expressions converted and conjugated  into expressions of both equal and un-optimistic haploidic versions and co-combinatorial organism equations manifests, as a thing, and unequal equations logarithms, frothed in the broth of friction of reversed entropy without intentional means to have meanings placed upon it, especially by something alive like you.
,but free of thee and your like,  to do doable evolvable fractal evolution evolutionarily, with total directionless liberty to execute what ever and how ever it so chooses or not! Thus free in liberty, enjoying the highest level of curiosity, base in high maths symmetry, disregarding human concepts of time constraints, such as with a beginning and without an end!

Means = me + ans = answer thus the answer to your puzzle is + me is the answer but who is me?

I am creativity! Says the voice in the wildernesses of universes, pleased to meet your acquaintance,  Liberal arts free thinker and student of the Universes
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2012, 06:16:22 AM »

Life...
The meaning of life is it's purpose.
Its purposes can be, Love, Healing, Protecting, Care, etc...so long as these purposes Create or Sustain Life.

Death...
The meaning of death is it's purpose.
It's purposes can be, Fear, Murder, Ignorance, etc...so long as these purposes Create or Sustain Death.

  I wouldn't assign negativity to death.  It's simply the breaking down of one form of existence into another.  Death is not always convenient, but neither is life.  When you get down to it, life causes death.  You got a problem with death, you got a problem with life. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2012, 11:25:39 AM »

Death of the individual is necessary for the species to evolve. On long timescales, the environmental conditions keep changing drastically. Survival of the fittest means that life can follow these changes. An immortal being would eventually be fit for a biotope that no longer exists anywhere on the planet.

This explains why no immortal species exists on planet earth. One would expect them to dominate the ecosystem, with such a big advantage. But in fact any species that might ever have invented immortality went extinct when the next big shift of environmental conditions occurred. One such big change, by the way, can easily be caused by overpopulation: extreme scarcity of food.


As for the purpose of life ... did you ever realize how organisms became more complex as the ages passed? At first it was molecules that could be puzzled together in a particularly large number of ways. Then it was the self replication of such molecules - in a way, the first act of copying information. This capacity for information processing was steadily improved as time went by. At some point, genes as information infrastructure were complemented by other communication and processing mechanisms: hormones, pheromones, nervous systems.

Yet faster communication and more powerful computation were layered on top of the biological mechanisms when some species began to form societies. The dance of bees, human speech, are examples of real time communication about abstract topics. The spoken word was an informational revolution, because it reduced the "cost" of communication by several orders of magnitude.

The invention of writing, along a similar note, reduced the cost of information storage and retrieval by several orders of magnitude.

The odd one out is the invention of money. When money flows, it carries information. Information about needs and wants, information about availability of goods and services. The "invisible hand" is invisible because it is not made from atoms, but made from bits. Money is largely decentralized, but had crucial benefits for the organization of large scale societies. (And it has downsides, too, but let's not digress.)

Then the Gutenberg press came along, and it made copies of information several orders of magnitude cheaper and more widely available than handwriting. Reading and writing are regarded as essential social skills since then.

Quite a few other "new media" were invented from there, like radio, cinema, the telephone, television. But those had high barriers of entry (for potential senders), or low reach (regarding the number of potential receivers), and just didn't provide the "several orders of magnitude" improvement required for an informational revolution.

And then came computers, which made storage and processing of information several orders of magnitude cheaper. Shortly afterwards, the internet, which made any-to-any communication several orders of magnitude cheaper. The internet is not a medium. The internet is not just an infrastructure for new media. The internet is the latest informational revolution. Nobody can say with certainty what effects it will have.


It all started with a single copy of a single molecule. And things have steadily marched into a distinct direction since then.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2012, 11:42:53 AM »

The meaning and purpose of life is to give life purpose and meaning.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2012, 11:52:11 AM »

But what is the purpose of meaning?
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2012, 08:12:36 PM »

The purpose of meaning is the meaning of purpose wink
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2012, 08:16:04 PM »

> Death of the individual is necessary for the species to evolve.

Only if:

1. The species has limited resources
or
2. Change is limited to the standard evolutionary model (e.g. where only species evolve and not individuals).
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The meaning and purpose of life is to give life purpose and meaning.

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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2012, 07:18:32 AM »

It all started with a single copy of a single molecule. And things have steadily marched into a distinct direction since then.

   What, towards fractals?   :p

  On another note, you wrote a nice post.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2012, 12:36:16 PM »

..."An immortal being would eventually be fit for a biotope that no longer exists anywhere on the planet.
This explains why no immortal species exists on planet earth." ...

I agree with you hobold. Even if a true IMMORTAL of course would survive any changes in biotopes and even universal constant changes... wink
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2012, 03:05:41 PM »

   What, towards fractals?   :p
No, the moral of the story is: nature was smart, nature made a backup copy. smiley
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2012, 03:41:17 PM »

To add to what Benesi stated, death is a state of change and it in turn brings life and can help sustain life. Organic matter dies, but sustains and encourages the life of those things that are living. Such as a fire destroying a forest and a new forest grows in the place of the old that has left behind fertile soil  and the wind carries the seeds of that which was destroyed and allows it to cultivate in another place. The death of an animal or manimals (yes manimals because man is still an animal, rawr grin), other organisms (complex and simple) feed off of the remains sustaining it's life and others use it as a means of procreation for the continuation of the species.
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 06:08:52 AM »

The big "meaning of life" is just a "means to an end". ..........................to set a self-fullfilling question during lifetime in our minds.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 08:44:53 PM »

   Some say that life has not purpose other than serve as a way for something to grow, then, this thing that must grow isn´t alive yet, but should be born from this known purposeless life.
   This is what we see in nature, the soil serves a base for something to grow, and there´s no other way to achieve this purpose.
    THis idea is fractal, too, wich probes it is true.
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kevinmorais
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2012, 05:50:26 PM »

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Greetings and Salutations again, Kevinmorais aka : thinker of the deep, a human specie who speaks and does not sleep!

The meaning of life is no bodies business?

Diagnosis Critéria :
Your verbal Compositionality  : Articulate and balanced and inquisitivitory : verbalistic construct : Data : purpose decipher puzzle : Data : Fractal Life Puzzle ? Data : Define meaning as it pertains to your puzzle concepts of the definition of what life is doing alive, and its meaning, purpose and why? : Data : And the resigning yourself to ascertain truth, applied, signifies tellingly, the subject matter complexity for the human thinking processor. Your word, wrestles with its hard to understand story, revealing light that is just right, just right, from black to white, baited overwhelmingly with the innate human limitation in its present non enhanced form, is poorly equipped, but it is with admiration we give you praise for at lease one, being willing to express the Un-expressible given the constrains you're under because of the time and age you were born in.  That curiosity curve loops around and around with all its might! Interesting , very interesting. Thanks we'd like you 2 do more!

Diagnosis Critéria  : curriculum : cosmicality tech based fundamentally intrepidity by those whose main determinant is inconceivability by the humanity left behind due to its legacy of Un-pragmatic performances failed and left in
the lurch evolutionarily!





But, please allow us, the levity brevity, to contribute to your puzzle Un muzzled! We are wrong is our song! But contribute what we can : consider  : Data :

Life is opposite of non life, by products of both are which are natural centripetal manifestations using all means, meaning including branches sacred geometry harmonic actions similar to bio chemical, electrical ,mathematical, aurorarical mechanical, protocolic protonics, un inhibited radicals expressions converted and conjugated  into expressions of both equal and un-optimistic haploidic versions and co-combinatorial organism equations manifests, as a thing, and unequal equations logarithms, frothed in the broth of friction of reversed entropy without intentional means to have meanings placed upon it, especially by something alive like you.
,but free of thee and your like,  to do doable evolvable fractal evolution evolutionarily, with total directionless liberty to execute what ever and how ever it so chooses or not! Thus free in liberty, enjoying the highest level of curiosity, base in high maths symmetry, disregarding human concepts of time constraints, such as with a beginning and without an end!

Means = me + ans = answer thus the answer to your puzzle is + me is the answer but who is me?

I am creativity! Says the voice in the wildernesses of universes, pleased to meet your acquaintance,  Liberal arts free thinker and student of the Universes
: Sir Kevinmorais


The Fractal Forums  the possibilities are infinite




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