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Author Topic: (Attn: stardust4ever) Magnum Opus Ex full zoom  (Read 2320 times)
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« on: May 15, 2014, 08:44:58 AM »

So, for a while, I've been wanting to see a zoom movie of stardust4ever's Magnum Opus Ex.

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Magnum-Opus-Ex-3132-6-Zooms-274474754

I got the feeling from his Deviant Art profile that, although at some time he wanted to, he never got into the mood of making one and there's no way on Earth that I could ever blame him for that. Well, recently, I got a new laptop that actually has a decent amount of muscle which, in combination with Kalles Fraktaler, actually made making a zoom movie from its center value very practical. I haven't uploaded it3 to a public URL, though, for a couple reasons. For one, the linked mux of it is just something I threw together in Blender real quick because I was so anxious to watch the result and didn't really want to have to sit through a 1/2-hour-long silent video1. Also, I wanted to make the zoom not just for myself, but as a service for stardust4ever, so I intentionally tried to imitate his palette, and I haven't quite yet been able to correspond with him on it. So, I'm not going to just toss the video out into the open air. I'd much rather use common-courtesy discretion even though I'm about 95% sure, he doesn't care as I could tell when I was writing the palette and thought out the HTML hex values2 of its primary colors only to find his apathy staring me in the face. ;-) Also, I've yet to get into the mood of expediting the movie's audio track to one that would be appropriate for the sharing sites.

Anyway, this video does zoom all the way down to the corresponding minibrot for the image's coordinates. Hope, you like it and, of course, all suggestions and constructive criticisms are welcome.

1Nonetheless, the video ends with a minute-and-a-half-long audio gap.
EDIT: The video being referred to by this footnote has since been replaced.
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3https://mega.co.nz/#!ads02Iha!5W8bU-lgjupbAI8kdpkxQjK4h1ygQkEy93TYyYqjX7w
https://mega.co.nz/#!OQFDCB4K!oAcWtZle7pzWLtVJrhQ1KwmsqHY5bWdocwkuEHsiRY8
EDIT: A public URL has since been added:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/gvLCT_JxCV8&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/v/gvLCT_JxCV8&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>

Frame map tarball:
https://mega.co.nz/#!yF8FRYRL!eD6wQqbcO9iiXwmgln00BLTv-IOVIx48yH5QwiAezy0



Specs:
 Encoding resolutions:
  Spatial:
   Visual data: 1080x607
   Compiled video: 1920x1080x24
   Linked mux: 1280x720
    File length: 3.27GB
                    3.48GB
  Temporal:
   Linked mux:
    Framerate: 30fps
    Bitrate: 15.6mbps
               16.7mbps
    Runtime: 29:56
Location:
 Center value:
-1.479796270901760024425279934770411525645551054432599517909807632824286254403907594526888466099962805022975196472549771681831234491695559852583955204986197762293872769474806903995564259040667568599770094112637937857082198756105097445619350756966793793114467432032937799346574014461957202648890738272675810429928192557139660619600296009564885280394001101360257346740494235037815372540293867629743448774089362874648952714837834757261669647915507055305674126984656711318786930953070950608370461895219919337664617433737293352968231749583061758258422599662604722098000000314666116027436011175894993211309068159162773679207450814155503083614827290221363244089017194859887036603611917809816800212447293119967557597851563066664929812719639801868841093522201098388080690835201401107775907424916066058853196986343451890576206748447874886892854877837677243840549640075772999621830901631124562599208718790588491784049700616627605181650170566542555529051199024120015083824033582065546753123188812619141291351068107748120740542228347936404419072491652758150552076092069598233522865072370987119006991017852479929569970704+0.001199443952813447746281973233374468444560314114132538362037569205657422216739564521471119107626453330996365067987088146663639996715939831819152248618042255824652268918299630897525386638029428706473920898358506195494798092175170947056508005125898188455476513341931256963209945768517999965001667076299333644684423677803421525767262584878869446028206903966564433218075051021122916794800140935842945782240831852572867457930764602730848767321435032630795018827988435399501930146465253643324698819626072050948659258653511129505375425645487770269836685433774043137622036169207385516752176231241602743976595972075603320408006389794749279655916354541539782745462023161731064232067674198549286361618303087153045942207147851253894840762493307442181404211167174928186254424413376758234084677871757029117172134794379472434314696191681618264140322839436244764371856772842373936969861577709408726036547469130011417964191068834221715324766522573823191722264068340809877388074085776799380824167633762846222500487351004632006267104521393235977416011673478415017751029891847931325006537698668478197435116049586294582890624ⅈ

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2014, 08:30:18 PM »

Spectacular! Thanks for rendering. Stardust4ever's work was amazing, especially considering the render speed at the time. His images are the reason I started exploring the Mandelbrot set.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2014, 04:30:49 PM »

plynch27, too bad stardust doesn't seem to be active anymore. But I think you should publish your amazing movie, I have downloaded it and watched it  shocked
If he would mind, you can simply remove it.

If you have kept the data frames and are willing to redo the movie, let me suggest you speed it up but slow it down on the main view at e-943, and do it really slowly there.

I just found stardust4ever a couple of weeks ago, I knew about him before but hadn't explored it much before, and yes his work is very amazing and land-breaking.
I searched if there were any high power mandelbrots already published on youtube and found his deep 3rd power render. Not HD but still excellent.
And I found many other very interesting movies from him, really inspiring with other amazing types of 2D fractals.
And I also found some really cool movies from you Dinky with high power Mandelbrots wink
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2014, 07:28:14 PM »

These are very good points. First of all, don't worry; whenever I render zoom sequences, I never delete the visual data output from the render. All the intermediary data between that and the end product are, obviously, gonna have to go at some point, but the visual data is effectively precious to me. The rest can be re-rendered in less than a day. Second of all, just forewarn, I'm not a very big fan of color cycling or rotation, though color cycling is great use temporarily for emphasis and illustration, because it beautifully reveals the image's structure which is great in images that are so complex that it's very difficult to sort out exactly how all the structures are simply connected.

Anyway, </digression>, I'll find some AGPL music to mux into this video ─ I actually still have all 156GB of its AVIs simply because I've been meaning to make it publishable but haven't gotten there, yet. Then, I'll render out a 2nd version for ya guys that actually has an amount of production put into it.1 ;-) I'll let you know about them on this thread.

Thanks, guys.

1I've also always been a fan of constant speed zooms, for some reason, especially at a speed of 2 zooms/sec. which for me has always been the happy medium between too fast and too slow.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2014, 07:39:44 PM »

If you like constant speed, you should do it with constant speed smiley Azn
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2014, 11:33:55 PM »

No, don't you go tryin' to talk me out of it, now. I will be making two versions: ... Options  wink
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 10:29:32 AM »

cool project!
but no matter in which player I open it, the movie seems squeezed.
I just noticed that you can force VLC-Player to use 16:9, looks fine now. But I never had to do this before..
Am I the only one who has this "problem"?

And do you have any idea why there is this vertical green line on the right?

I don't mean to criticise with this, it's just that I noticed and wondered..
I really like this video! especially that you uploaded it in real hq, not just youtube that destroys all the great details.. there's nothing like

I'm also sure that stardust would love to see this - someone who was crazy enough to zoom that deep in those "early days" without pertubation definitely can appreciate this.

cheers!

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what is agpl-music? like creative commons?
if it meets your taste you can use this track I made, it would span the whole length: http://www.evermusic.de/media/temp/Hypnose32min.mp3


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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 06:19:05 PM »

cool project!
but no matter in which player I open it, the movie seems squeezed.
I just noticed that you can force VLC-Player to use 16:9, looks fine now. But I never had to do this before..
Am I the only one who has this "problem"?

And do you have any idea why there is this vertical green line on the right?

I don't mean to criticise with this, it's just that I noticed and wondered..
I really like this video! especially that you uploaded it in real hq, not just youtube that destroys all the great details.. there's nothing like

I'm also sure that stardust would love to see this - someone who was crazy enough to zoom that deep in those "early days" without pertubation definitely can appreciate this.

cheers!

edit:
what is agpl-music? like creative commons?
if it meets your taste you can use this track I made, it would span the whole length: http://www.evermusic.de/media/temp/Hypnose32min.mp3
I also had problem with the ratio of the movie...
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 07:58:53 PM »

Yeah, I know. In the end, it's really just a bad piece of information in the movie's metadata and I still haven't been able to find the setting in Blender that's causing it. Unless I'm just misunderstanding how the "aspect ratio" setting works, I've got it set to, specifically, 16:9 with the resolution at 1280x720, but, nonetheless, the end result's "aspect ratio" field is getting set to, like, 3.25:1 or something. I think I might have metadata editor around here somewhere, now that I think about it, but it would be nice to figure out what's wrong. This isn't the first time I've put together a video in Blender, but it's the first time I've come across this problem. If I post the .blend file, does anyone think they might be able to find it?
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 08:47:24 AM »

Okay, I found out what the problem was. I misinterpreted Blender's "Aspect Ratio" setting as the video aspect ratio when it was referring to the pixel aspect ratio. So, when I set that aspect ratio to 16:9, it got multiplied by the 16:9 aspect ratio implied by the video's render resolution setting causing the aspect ratio tag in the mp4 metadata to be set at (16:9)^2 or 3.16:1. I'm encoding the muxes now and I'll drop another post on this thread when they're uploaded to give you e-mail notification.

what is agpl-music? like creative commons?
if it meets your taste you can use this track I made, it would span the whole length: http://www.evermusic.de/media/temp/Hypnose32min.mp3

Attribution-Only General Public License. So, effectively, yeah.
and, yes, thanks for the track. It sounds like Orbital ─ you know, "Hackers", "Mortal Kombat" ─ and brings me back to the 90s.
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2014, 05:05:40 AM »

Alright, here's my next mux of it:

https://mega.co.nz/#!OQFDCB4K!oAcWtZle7pzWLtVJrhQ1KwmsqHY5bWdocwkuEHsiRY8

This one has the correct aspect ratio in its metadata and the track Chillheimer made and linked to four posts above this one in its audio stream. I'll be trying to keep an updated list of the files' links ─ not that I plan to upload a lot of them, but there will be infrequent "version updates" and hosting site URLs ─ in this thread's originating post.

And do you have any idea why there is this vertical green line on the right?

Actually, I was unable to duplicate that problem.
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2014, 09:06:04 AM »

Alright, guys, I finally got the video a watch page on YouTube:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/gvLCT_JxCV8&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/v/gvLCT_JxCV8&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2014, 11:44:56 AM »

Alright, guys, I finally got the video a watch page on YouTube:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/gvLCT_JxCV8&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/gvLCT_JxCV8&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>
It's amazing, thanks alot. The x of x of x is still the deepest Julia morphing ever!
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2014, 07:01:16 PM »

Hey, if anyone's interested, I've uploaded a tarball of the frame maps:

https://mega.co.nz/#!yF8FRYRL!eD6wQqbcO9iiXwmgln00BLTv-IOVIx48yH5QwiAezy0

It's a 9.4 GB download that will decompress to 17.3 GB.

In case you're thinking "WTF?", no, I normally wouldn't do this. It's just that because of the circumstances of this video, I'd like to make it as open as possible.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2014, 02:26:58 AM »

Hey guys, I'm back, baby!  afro

First off, sorry for the late reply. I guess I've taken a hiatus from fractal rendering for a while. Sometimes I go for months without logging into my Deviantart account. I'm still around, although my interests have primarily shifted back to my old hobby of retro video game collecting. After the Magnum Opus Ex fractal, deep zooming took a back seat to Mandelbrot variants with abs() commands, like Buffalo, Celtic, Burning Ship, etc. At some point a year or so ago, I guess I got bored with the fractal thing. Magnum Opus Ex was so deep that I knew I could never do a full zoom into it so I basically did a remake titled "Magnum Opus Lite." This was basically a search for a similar formation at a much lighter zoom depth. I accomplished this by shortening the arm length of the original X formation I used as the base. As expected, shorter arms equated to a more shallow zoom depth for the final formation, this time I discovered the formation at 1731 zooms instead of 3132. Using this new location as a start point for a video zoom, I successfully completed a full zoom from start to minibrot that totaled around 1800 or so zoom levels. Due to the extreme amount of zooms, each Fractal Extreme zoom frame was rendered at 640x360 pixels, interpolated to an HD output frame size of 1280x720 for cleaner scaling. Magnum Opus Lite took a little over 3-and-a-half weeks to render on my AMD 8-core FX Bulldozer (overclocked to 4.2Ghz). Zoom speed was fairly swift to keep the time from running long. I've been sitting on the Magnum Opus Lite video for a couple years, but never got around to uploading it as my interests have moved on a bit. Being 640x360 native, it was a little bit pixellated when played back on an HD screen.

Magnum Opus Ex (3132 zooms):
http://stardust4ever.deviantart.com/art/Magnum-Opus-Ex-3132-6-Zooms-274474754

Magnum Opus Lite (1731 zooms):
http://stardust4ever.deviantart.com/art/Magnum-Opus-Ex-Lite-1731-Zooms-301462979

Side by Side Comparison:
http://stardust4ever.deviantart.com/art/Magnum-Opus-Ex-Comparison-314583454

Pteradactyl Bone (2482 zooms - Periodic doubling from Magnum Opus Lite formation):
http://stardust4ever.deviantart.com/art/Pterodactyl-Bone-2482-Zooms-298663841

My Fractal Gallery:
http://stardust4ever.deviantart.com/gallery/9952329/Fractals

Anyway, were it not for my procrastination to upload the oversampled , the OP may never have taken the reigns and finished the original zoom. I'm currently downloading the files from Mega right now. For the sake of the topic, I'll get the original Magnum Opus Lite video uploaded shortly, however my upload bandwidth on DSL is painfully slow and I gotta find the video file in my archives...

Finally, to plynch27, I just wanted to say thank you. Thank you for doing this for me!!! thanks sign

 Smiling Mandelbrot

My orignal MP4 video "Magnum Opus Ex Lite" zoom movie is currently uploading to Youtube. It should be live in another 6 to 7 hours if all goes well:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/0WChGAK&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/0WChGAK&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>
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