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« on: December 26, 2013, 03:30:03 PM »

Hello all,

I have a problem on the 3D Navi screen.

I first render a fractal on the main screen without problem, then i create an animation file without problem with the 3D navi.
I save the animation and all parameters files yesterday.
Today i load all the files without any problems (no error message). I can render the fractal on the main screen, but when i go to the 3D navi windows, i have a black screen. I have try to change lightness, far planes etc..to load again light and parameters.. nothing works allways a black screen. All is ok when i load another fractal. So if anyone can help  !
Here is the parameter file : (there is one light with a map, maybe you will not have the map)

Mandelbulb3Dv18{
g.....m....x/...w....2A...kPIYfsnN8pzSi2BFM8C6wjl8/M0Skd2znk3wX86p3.zWNeeGY6uDxj
................................tzTfnrwPq/2........Y./..................N/2...wD
...Uz6/...U4..../MU//...........z/...2E4.....owd4UbPgwhD/.EyxqrD...m1dkpXm1.....
//.kviPD12../2UNaNaNaNaxz...........I.....Uadl9...........W0.....y1...sD...../..
.z1...sDO2BIsCtuoonJpYKRilmry00keTQY7aUDGbDAOmk8DvPDM4NVnqV/ywhBBQwdzfhDa/DI7Tuz
OvvQhxUmFaMyxuOOHS71fwgjU.....2u..............sD.6....sD/.G.....................
.............oAnAt1...sD....zw1...................................UeUN/EB....k1.
.....Ksulz1.......kzHwzzz1.U..6......w0...UB....p.z26...UgE.....1....QX....UPF5I
......aZczDM6/nz/AE/z1....c.pc..zrheT..UK/nl2xvj6.M93P58iz1..0.......EU.XkjQgk0.
.YeA/WtD2z1.yPj6wjV3z..h0HZqwExj/2X0.wzzz1...........s6...................E.lc..
zzzz............00...................2U.8.kzzzD............8....................
/6U0.wzzz1...................................UTVR..y3q/yzz/k.1A..1Ak.vzDsnwF.UDn
5VTzThdht0kaqaPiQs5y3q/.sLM5s1bTsLM5.UTVRUDlyVTVR..y3q/yMw5y3q/.sLM5snqTsLM5.UTV
RUDkzVTVR..y3q/y...y3q/bzz/k.1Akyz1yATomxzpaqaff................................
E....AU2V2E/....I....Y....EEIJ4Rm3aJH/..rJaQ..........................k/..U/4MU.
0.........U..........LsuFVf53CyDkAnAnAnAfz1.............................y.2.....
..cJ./..................kz1.....................................................
.....................2.....3....7....gqPXVqLXJbMZ/.PpB5.........................
........4MU/..................zD........kz1........wz2.......6/kzzzzzzzzzzPxzzzz
zzzrz0............................cF./..................Uz1........../..........
................................/....E/..../....TBINgFLOXpoPYJ4.gF4.............
........................................kz9.....................................
................................................................................
............................................}
{Titel: Finalrose}

So if anyone can help  ! Thanx
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2013, 07:41:59 PM »

Hello all,

I have a problem on the 3D Navi screen.

I first render a fractal on the main screen without problem, then i create an animation file without problem with the 3D navi.
I save the animation and all parameters files yesterday.
Today i load all the files without any problems (no error message). I can render the fractal on the main screen, but when i go to the 3D navi windows, i have a black screen. I have try to change lightness, far planes etc..to load again light and parameters.. nothing works allways a black screen. All is ok when i load another fractal. So if anyone can help  !
Here is the parameter file : (there is one light with a map, maybe you will not have the map)

Mandelbulb3Dv18{
g.....m....x/...w....2A...kPIYfsnN8pzSi2BFM8C6wjl8/M0Skd2znk3wX86p3.zWNeeGY6uDxj
................................tzTfnrwPq/2........Y./..................N/2...wD
...Uz6/...U4..../MU//...........z/...2E4.....owd4UbPgwhD/.EyxqrD...m1dkpXm1.....
//.kviPD12../2UNaNaNaNaxz...........I.....Uadl9...........W0.....y1...sD...../..
.z1...sDO2BIsCtuoonJpYKRilmry00keTQY7aUDGbDAOmk8DvPDM4NVnqV/ywhBBQwdzfhDa/DI7Tuz
OvvQhxUmFaMyxuOOHS71fwgjU.....2u..............sD.6....sD/.G.....................
.............oAnAt1...sD....zw1...................................UeUN/EB....k1.
.....Ksulz1.......kzHwzzz1.U..6......w0...UB....p.z26...UgE.....1....QX....UPF5I
......aZczDM6/nz/AE/z1....c.pc..zrheT..UK/nl2xvj6.M93P58iz1..0.......EU.XkjQgk0.
.YeA/WtD2z1.yPj6wjV3z..h0HZqwExj/2X0.wzzz1...........s6...................E.lc..
zzzz............00...................2U.8.kzzzD............8....................
/6U0.wzzz1...................................UTVR..y3q/yzz/k.1A..1Ak.vzDsnwF.UDn
5VTzThdht0kaqaPiQs5y3q/.sLM5s1bTsLM5.UTVRUDlyVTVR..y3q/yMw5y3q/.sLM5snqTsLM5.UTV
RUDkzVTVR..y3q/y...y3q/bzz/k.1Akyz1yATomxzpaqaff................................
E....AU2V2E/....I....Y....EEIJ4Rm3aJH/..rJaQ..........................k/..U/4MU.
0.........U..........LsuFVf53CyDkAnAnAnAfz1.............................y.2.....
..cJ./..................kz1.....................................................
.....................2.....3....7....gqPXVqLXJbMZ/.PpB5.........................
........4MU/..................zD........kz1........wz2.......6/kzzzzzzzzzzPxzzzz
zzzrz0............................cF./..................Uz1........../..........
................................/....E/..../....TBINgFLOXpoPYJ4.gF4.............
........................................kz9.....................................
................................................................................
............................................}
{Titel: Finalrose}

So if anyone can help  ! Thanx

Hello and welcome to the forums   afro

Sorry, but I can offer no help with this issue other than to confirm that the issue you describe is reproducible on my system  (the parameters render fine, but the 3D Navi window is blacked out and no tweaking brings an image into view).

I have never seen this before, so hopefully Jesse  (the creator of Mandelbulb3D) will see it and have some sort of idea what is happening.

Until then, keep at it and have fun with the bits that do work properly   wink

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2013, 10:23:34 PM »

If you increase the ambient light level a little, the 3DNavi works fine.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2013, 10:35:14 PM »

If you increase the ambient light level a little, the 3DNavi works fine.

Silly me!

I never thought to check the lighting outside the navi window, just the lightness thingy inside it!

I just assumed it had some sort of light as it rendered fine, but the ambient was all the way at zero, so this all makes sense now.

Good eye there, MM!
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2013, 09:57:49 AM »

Thanx Sockratease and Madma !
The answer was so easy wink

Have a nice day !
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2013, 10:31:54 AM »

Hi Pulsar69,

I made a few changes and your parameters are not very rose-like anymore but  - I did that because you seem to be new and I thought you might like another area & color scheme to check out.
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Mandelbulb3Dv18{
g.....m....x/...w....2A...Uotyeu/L5pzK37YHYeL41EAaPE5yYX2znJx.jJFx4.za23uOW7EExj
................................R71Rvnb/102........Y./..................2/2...wD
...Uz6/....k..../MU//...........30...2E4.....EjhVxHgV7hD/.EyxqrD...m1dkpXm1.....
//.kviPD12../2UNaNaNaNaxz...........I.....Uadl9...........W0.....y1...sD...../..
.z1...sDtiTxRyxeconysPRDl4aoyKaINjanRsTDHt.jK0CM0vfAl9sLXHVyxoodR1.yKzgDDDJW1Ujp
DvvTV/aPCrVvxihDlI7sU7gjU.....Ia5.............sD.6....sD/.G.....................
.............oAnAt1...sD....zw1...................................UeUN/EC....k1.
.....Ksulz1.......kz.g/4G..U..6......o3...UB....C1...c1...E.....7....QX....UPF5I
.....AIG2h/PkN64x22IG.uiM16.Lc..JHgX...........U6.cXcESLfz1...........kA8.UE/Z2.
..........6.0Rt93AU../.U.........MW0.obNJ/..KZajjzXyzs6.....................ac..
xNKJ..kuvBTuCfzj00....................G78.U6tY1..w8pJs/mpz98qIU1bNlyz0..........
.EX0.21Dm.............k.Tci/2UyD.............2ZIH/UCzwnDAuVAOE/.MUoOflj8VgGF.Qsg
sWfAk.XB//UI.daOjOn5PU1.aklAngIDwol2.ArLnA5a5J3Cf.kaT8sb8.pMXZ4.JGMQJWvQOd3L.sug
nC9psh2BY.UdQ4dd..EsUa3feeWCNqGQIJ36wk8EwyLsUa3f................................
E....AU2V2E/....I....Y....EEIJ4Rm3aJH/..rJaQ..........................k/..U/4MU.
0.........U..........LsuFVf53CyDkAnAnAnAfz1..................s2E........y.2.....
..cJ./..................kz1.....................................................
.....................2.....3....7....gqPXVqLXJbMZ/.PpB5.........................
........4MU/..................zD........kz1........wz2.......6/kzzzzzzzzzzPxzzzz
zzzrz0............................cF./..................Uz1........../..........
................................/....E/..../....TBINgFLOXpoPYJ4.gF4.............
........................................kz9.....................................
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{Titel: 131229_Pulsar69_Finalrose_twk01b}
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2013, 10:45:25 AM »

Oh and I forgot to mention that the 3D navigator has a control named "lightness" which will increase the image in the navigator window up to a certain level.  And another helpful element throughout the whole program you may not see if you're quick or your computer is slow is that many controls pop up "balloon tips" or "information bubbles" if you hover your mouse above them long enough.  Not all of the controls have tips though, especially if they're already labeled.

If you're really into it there is a "Mandelbulb3DReadme.html" document in the folder with the program's executable.  It explains a lot that would be difficult to hunt up around here.
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