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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009, 12:11:40 PM »


You guys never cease to amaze me. Especially considering that your renders probably take minutes to hours and take even longer to prepare.





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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2009, 12:16:47 PM »

pretty neat smiley

any cutplane-rotation animation yet?

I have one animation in the render queue (a "remix" of my previous Mandelbulb crater tranformation, with a better codec) that starts with a 5 sec dezoom from this kind of spiral. Hopefully it will be finished in a week or 2.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2009, 12:33:37 PM »

@David,

Is it possible to achieve parallax zooming (and avoid the "zoom in a very large still picture" effect) by carefully choosing parameters ?
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2009, 08:29:44 PM »

@David,

Is it possible to achieve parallax zooming (and avoid the "zoom in a very large still picture" effect) by carefully choosing parameters ?


Yes, use a small Image plane distance and suitable (fixed) high UF magnification and do all the rest using the target/distance/rotation parameters - I'd suggest setting the "camera distance" also very small and then the "target" location is effectively the camera location then you can move the camera to exactly where you want it by simply changing the target location.
This way to zoom-in just move the camera position closer to the object rather than using UF's location/zoom.
You can also get interesting effects by animating the image plane distance and the magnification together, done correctly the image in the view will remain constant but simply change perspective.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2009, 09:41:22 PM »

Aaaaargh!  sad sad huh? huh? tongue stuck out cry cry cheesy
Try for example to "explore" any Viewing control parameter in this upr and tell me if what you see in the Exploring window is consistent.

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2009, 12:00:02 AM »

Aaaaargh!  sad sad huh? huh? tongue stuck out cry cry cheesy
Try for example to "explore" any Viewing control parameter in this upr and tell me if what you see in the Exploring window is consistent.

Mandelbulb5ZoomII {
::DHj5Gin2FjVWPytNS43Ng/PI05lEYPq5pO8CCkYPOBGwej3dWg9tdAbd0tSoOWJ1eme+1vFP
 

Aha, it seems you have discovered a bug in Ultra Fractal.
What's actually happening is somehow UF is showing a preview of a modification of the wrong frame of the animation.
I will forward to Frederik smiley
There is a somewhat clumsy workaround - duplicate the fractal, delete the animation from the duplicate (don't change frame but bring up the "timeline" right-click on the top bar and select "delete selected"), now the explore preview will work on the duplicate. Finally copy the rotation parameter from the duplicate to the appropriate frame in the original (obviously in "Animate" mode).
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2009, 12:47:19 AM »

Aaaaargh!  sad sad huh? huh? tongue stuck out cry cry cheesy
Try for example to "explore" any Viewing control parameter in this upr and tell me if what you see in the Exploring window is consistent.

Mandelbulb5ZoomII {
::DHj5Gin2FjVWPytNS43Ng/PI05lEYPq5pO8CCkYPOBGwej3dWg9tdAbd0tSoOWJ1eme+1vFP
 

Aha, it seems you have discovered a bug in Ultra Fractal.
What's actually happening is somehow UF is showing a preview of a modification of the wrong frame of the animation.
I will forward to Frederik smiley
There is a somewhat clumsy workaround - duplicate the fractal, delete the animation from the duplicate (don't change frame but bring up the "timeline" right-click on the top bar and select "delete selected"), now the explore preview will work on the duplicate. Finally copy the rotation parameter from the duplicate to the appropriate frame in the original (obviously in "Animate" mode).


I had just noticed that in animation with only 2 keys, while exploring the last frame, it shows the 1st one in fact. The workaround seems logical. Anyway, I've been trying to do some parallax zoom, but I'm not satisfied at all. For example I find the camera distance difficult to manipulate, not linear, and I sometimes it suddenly clips parts or the whole image with a very minor change (but that's typically a fractal behavior smiley)

This test video is funny:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/T28_tcbX1Mk&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/T28_tcbX1Mk&rel=1&fs=1&hd=1</a>
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2009, 02:07:53 AM »

I had just noticed that in animation with only 2 keys, while exploring the last frame, it shows the 1st one in fact. The workaround seems logical. Anyway, I've been trying to do some parallax zoom, but I'm not satisfied at all. For example I find the camera distance difficult to manipulate, not linear, and I sometimes it suddenly clips parts or the whole image with a very minor change (but that's typically a fractal behavior smiley)


You can avoid the clipping to some extent by setting the front clipping plane so it's closer to the viewpoint than the image plane - to do so use a negative value for the front clipping plane position parameter (use a slightly smaller value than the image plane distance e.g. if the image plane distance is 0.5 then use say -0.45 for the front clipping plane).
The other thing to avoid the problem is to increase the magnification.

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