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« on: November 18, 2011, 02:17:57 PM » |
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OK, this is really nerdy... But at least I find it interesting I hope someone can answer... I was comparing the render I did to celebrate 2 years with the bulb: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9294With Daniel Whites wonderful "Cave of Lost Secrets": http://mandelbulbs.s3.amazonaws.com/new/full/q50/MysteryCave-b-med.jpgAnd because I have done hundreds of renders of the different mandelbulb versions I can tell that both PROBABLY are Cosine bulbs (because the SIN version are much more symmetric) BUT there is a small difference between the two images, you see the "stay" in Daniels render? In mine there is nothing like it... What could make a small difference like that? I know I will probably get no answer But I hope someone can give me a hint...
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 02:39:54 PM » |
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Mmmmh, isn't it again a matter of turning the image upside down? (see attachment)
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Between order and disorder reigns a delicious moment. (Paul Valéry)
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 02:44:03 PM » |
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By the way, it's not a stay, it's a wing:
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Between order and disorder reigns a delicious moment. (Paul Valéry)
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 02:46:52 PM » |
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Strange, I get no Wing... not anywhere... is this MB3D fresh renders of a cosine bulb bib?? And thank you for bothering!
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 02:51:10 PM » |
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Yep, fresh CosinePow8
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 02:56:53 PM » |
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OK, I will try your parameters bib... If I turn mine upside down it does not match Daniels at all at the top... the whipped cream should be up... Holy... is this geeky or what?
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 03:13:19 PM » |
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 03:15:13 PM » |
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XP (On Parallels on Mac OS X 10.6.8 ) ...might be the "problem"? Strange it only affects the "wing" BTW, I like your image of the wing very much You should do a high res render of it!!!
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 10:26:21 PM » |
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Jesse will explain that. Sounds absolutely mysterious.
Of course, i will explain it, not today but certainly somewhere in the future. (Because bib could foresee it) If it was a win issue i would say that Bill G. would have needed the wings to meet Benoit M. for some pints of beer... but since it seems to be a Mac emulation issue and i don't think that Steve J. needs kind of... i really have no clue! I would request some other Mac Parallels images to see if it belongs to this combination, btu if only belongs to your personal computer, KRAFTWERK, i would be scared! Hope this helped
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 10:50:02 PM » |
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Jesse I am experiencing issues with pasted params too Some pars don't render the same in all computers it seems
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 11:55:23 PM » |
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Jesse I am experiencing issues with pasted params too Some pars don't render the same in all computers it seems Ok, but this is very general spoken.. it depends on the program and formula versions involved. And since you are updating your formulas quite often, you are responsible for at least half these issues But this special issue of wings (missing) is really strange because i don't think i have changed the CosinePow8 at all, and it should not affect the program version too. But maybe this is a kind of conspiracy we run into, who knows..
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 12:28:24 AM » |
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Never mind, found the cause , they did not update formulas
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 09:10:58 AM » |
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Of course, i will explain it, not today but certainly somewhere in the future. (Because bib could foresee it) If it was a win issue i would say that Bill G. would have needed the wings to meet Benoit M. for some pints of beer... but since it seems to be a Mac emulation issue and i don't think that Steve J. needs kind of... i really have no clue! I would request some other Mac Parallels images to see if it belongs to this combination, btu if only belongs to your personal computer, KRAFTWERK, i would be scared! Hope this helped Very mysterious "answer" Jesse... What images do you need to solve this? Maybe this topic should be moved to the Mandelbulb 3D forum...
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 10:25:03 AM » |
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Darkbeam is probably right, as usual in IT, a problem is a matter of component version. Grrrr, he broke the charm! I liked this idea of the mysterious wing! Anyway this does not give the ultimate answer: is that REALLY a formula version issue, and if yes, what changed and why only this little impact? I would be curious to see the corresponding "artifact" on the Power2.
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« Last Edit: November 19, 2011, 10:45:50 AM by bib »
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