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Author Topic: How distorted can a minibrot be?  (Read 1209 times)
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MateFizyChem
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2016, 07:32:59 PM »

Here's some visual evidence showing the convergence to a limit of distortion in elephant valley, with the period doubling each frame:

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locations:
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     4 -1.565201668337550811e-01 + 1.032247108922831780e+00 i @ 1.697e-02
      8 4.048996651751222142e-01 + 1.458203637665893004e-01 i @ 2.743e-03
     16 2.925037532341934199e-01 + 1.492506899834379792e-02 i @ 3.484e-04
     32 2.602618199285006706e-01 + 1.667791320926506355e-03 i @ 4.113e-05
     64 2.524934589775105209e-01 + 1.971526796077277316e-04 i @ 4.920e-06
    128 2.506132008410751344e-01 + 2.396932642510365971e-05 i @ 5.997e-07
    256 2.501519680089798192e-01 + 2.954962325906881015e-06 i @ 7.398e-08
    512 2.500378219137852631e-01 + 3.668242052764790239e-07 i @ 9.185e-09
   1024 2.500094340031833728e-01 + 4.569478652064613658e-08 i @ 1.144e-09
   2048 2.500023558032561377e-01 + 5.701985912706845832e-09 i @ 1.428e-10
   4096 2.500005886128087162e-01 + 7.121326948562731412e-10 i @ 1.783e-11
   8192 2.500001471109009610e-01 + 8.897814201389539302e-11 i @ 2.228e-12


So I am assuming that the 1st hypothesis is (inaccurately measured) 30 degrees.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2016, 08:10:35 AM »

The distortion of such Minibrots is not inherited by the respective satellite minibrots. For example the main antenna is bent quite out of shape, but the satellite minibrot there is much closer to symmetrical than the parent.

I had no success trying to "shapestack" distorted minibrots on top of each other.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2016, 09:00:41 AM »

Do you know :
http://mrob.com/pub/muency/distortion.html
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2016, 03:10:31 AM »

Here's some visual evidence showing the convergence to a limit of distortion in elephant valley, with the period doubling each frame:

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locations:
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      4 -1.565201668337550811e-01 + 1.032247108922831780e+00 i @ 1.697e-02
      8 4.048996651751222142e-01 + 1.458203637665893004e-01 i @ 2.743e-03
     16 2.925037532341934199e-01 + 1.492506899834379792e-02 i @ 3.484e-04
     32 2.602618199285006706e-01 + 1.667791320926506355e-03 i @ 4.113e-05
     64 2.524934589775105209e-01 + 1.971526796077277316e-04 i @ 4.920e-06
    128 2.506132008410751344e-01 + 2.396932642510365971e-05 i @ 5.997e-07
    256 2.501519680089798192e-01 + 2.954962325906881015e-06 i @ 7.398e-08
    512 2.500378219137852631e-01 + 3.668242052764790239e-07 i @ 9.185e-09
   1024 2.500094340031833728e-01 + 4.569478652064613658e-08 i @ 1.144e-09
   2048 2.500023558032561377e-01 + 5.701985912706845832e-09 i @ 1.428e-10
   4096 2.500005886128087162e-01 + 7.121326948562731412e-10 i @ 1.783e-11
   8192 2.500001471109009610e-01 + 8.897814201389539302e-11 i @ 2.228e-12


The converging seems to be finite. For this reason, I'm guessing the fractal distortion has some sort of "limit". I remember thinking that if you were to zoom into a distorted Minibrot, it would have even more distorted Mandelbrots, and so forth, into complete non-Mandelbrot like shapes. The distorted Mandelbrots do not seem to have heavily distorted zoom-ups, but the parts are rearranged a bit.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2016, 09:30:59 AM »

I remember thinking that if you were to zoom into a distorted Minibrot, it would have even more distorted Mandelbrots, and so forth, into complete non-Mandelbrot like shapes.
Nope, the distortion doesn't 'add up' to the next generation minibrot. The only distortion I ever encountered was in a valley. The deeper, the more distorted.
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2016, 01:31:08 PM »

You are correct; but that is what I used to think.
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2016, 03:47:55 PM »

sorry, misread that..
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2016, 06:04:57 PM »

Don't worry; it's okay.
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2017, 09:52:48 AM »

how is it that i get the same image near (0,0)? at a zoom level of 1 that is 1e0


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