Hello - A simple fractal first post

[David Makin]

I sure hope I didn't promote resigning, Klixon.

Dont worry, mate... My actions are my own. I just find that whole article a disgrace.
Fractals are not defined by the software with which they're created.

I see a point in David's comment about categorizing, but the way it is discussed disgusts me.

You shouldn't judge DA by the DA staff or the rather more vocal members, there's actually a very good fractal community there.
Anyway if you want another alternative then Renderosity also has a good fractal membership.

[klixon]

You shouldn't judge DA by the DA staff or the rather more vocal members, there's actually a very good fractal community there.
Anyway if you want another alternative then Renderosity also has a good fractal membership.

Have you read the article and comments? (seriously!)
Thanks for the tip on renderosity, i will check it out.

[teamfresh]

What, like here maybe?

Don't be absurd! All these creative minds are a menace to society. The FBI will be on me in minutes 

PS (I'm in the final stage of finally rendering a zoom into the mandelbrot set. I still have to find legal and decent music to acompany it, though, so dont hold yer breath just yet lol)

Join up to http://vimeo.com and do a shout out in the forums - specifically the "wanted and offered" forum!!! Its a hot melting pot of artists collaborating together - I get free music from there all the time there is some real talent there!!

http://vimeo.com/forum:wanted_and_offered

[Thunderwave]

Join up to http://vimeo.com and do a shout out in the forums - specifically the "wanted and offered" forum!!! Its a hot melting pot of artists collaborating together - I get free music from there all the time there is some real talent there!!

http://vimeo.com/forum:wanted_and_offered

An unexpected thank you from me for this link.  I write music and would love people to use it in movies and stuff.  Thanks.

P.S. I agree with both David and Klixon! 
The article is a disgrace but is not the thoughts of all DA staff, especially since most there probably don't know or have the time to monitor all moderators.

I also plan to check out renderosity.  I've heard of them.

[teamfresh]

ahh - I do love it when a plan comes together - collaborations a plenty....

[iteron]

Definitions of fractals don't mention anything about computers or algorithms they usually have more to do with statements involving geometric measure theory and self similar sets.

Your fractal was generated through applying the same force repeatedly (not the same mathematical function as the computer fractals), that is your hand drawing the fractal.

That is the only difference I really see as far as generating a fractal.

Computer fractals aren't iterated infinitely (only if you had infinite time could you have infinite subdivision), just as your fractal doesn't have infinite detail.

It seems as if they're merely categorizing art works between those created by traditional methods and those created digitally.

It's a valid distinction in categorizing art but not about defining what a fractal is or whether the object is fractal art.

[klixon]

Join up to http://vimeo.com and do a shout out in the forums - specifically the "wanted and offered" forum!!! Its a hot melting pot of artists collaborating together - I get free music from there all the time there is some real talent there!!

http://vimeo.com/forum:wanted_and_offered

Thanks! Will check it out soon

You shouldn't judge DA by the DA staff or the rather more vocal members, there's actually a very good fractal community there.
Anyway if you want another alternative then Renderosity also has a good fractal membership.

True. I'll probably be reading/viewing works from others there. But the smugness in the article and comments is something I just can't stand. Do not want...

An unexpected thank you from me for this link.  I write music and would love people to use it in movies and stuff.  Thanks.

P.S. I agree with both David and Klixon! 
The article is a disgrace but is not the thoughts of all DA staff, especially since most there probably don't know or have the time to monitor all moderators.

I also plan to check out renderosity.  I've heard of them.

Interesting... I'll be checking out your site tomorrow. Always nice to hear new music, and hopefully it fits well with my zoom

[Thunderwave]

Thanks Klixon!

I excitedly await your thoughts!   

[Sockratease]

I have a Chaoscope fractal someplace that resembles your drawing - I'll try to dig it out after I get home from my employment...

I finally found it!

Actually, it's not the one I was looking for  (that one has double the "arms" but is otherwise very similar).

Here it is (a Chaoscope Julia Fractal):



If I ever find the other, I'll post it too.

[Thunderwave]

I finally found it!

Actually, it's not the one I was looking for  (that one has double the "arms" but is otherwise very similar).

Here it is (a Chaoscope Julia Fractal):

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If I ever find the other, I'll post it too.

Fascinating!  Thank you Sockratease,  I'm excited to see the other one as well.

[klixon]

I excitedly await your thoughts!   

I fell asleep last night before i could check out your music

I'm listening now. And I am thoroughly impressed! Beautiful works.
I'm definitely going back for another listening session tomorrow. I'm too tired to fully appreciate it at the moment, and I already found some pieces I need to listen to more then once to "get" them. Just what i look for in music.

favourites so far: Black Widow and abandondedmemories

Are those recordings made in a studio or a theatre?
And how much time did it take to get crystalglass right? That is just awesome

[Thunderwave]

favourites so far: Black Widow and abandondedmemories

Are those recordings made in a studio or a theatre?

"Black Widow" was made in a Concert Hall by the "St. Helens String Quartet", "Abandoned Memories" was made in my own studio.  It was a piano improvisation that has added effects for 'mysterious encounters'! 

And how much time did it take to get crystalglass right? That is just awesome

Thanks so much! I would say that was a b^#%!  But it was fun.  It's not equally tempered so measuring water to tune, took forever; and playing each glass to get the effect, took lots of practice and the recording was never just right.  If you're curious, it's tuned to a septimal harmonic scale, I can tell you more later.

[Thunderwave]

Well, it turns out that there's a new moderator for the Fractal Gallery.  She is going to write up  a new article about fractals and why the gallery only accepts Digital software programs dedicated to making fractals.  She may take it up a level to allow all computer generated fractals, but she doubts they will allow hand drawn ones or any non-digital fractal.

I am still talking with her to try to make things better.

I will suggest that they consider fractals its own category and make branches for digital to non-digital fractals.  Plus I suggested to add questions as to how the fractal was designed, generated, or developed, like from a fractal program or a process of another kind.  That should somewhat clarify if they are fractals or not.

She agreed with my description of Fractals and defended the article by saying he was only explaining the category, not fractals.  Even if that is what he meant the article didn't explain that.

Nonetheless,  things are looking up for dA Fractals.

[Sockratease]

I wonder what they'd make of things like this over at Deviant Art:



It *was* made with a Fractal Generator!

Feel free to link to it (or any other such Fractals I made from Lissa's Images)  (There are MANY posted around the forum)  (I get Obsessive!).

Should be good for a laugh if nothing else.  And prove the point that Fractals are not so easily defined as one may think...

[Thunderwave]

I wonder what they'd make of things like this over at Deviant Art:

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It *was* made with a Fractal Generator!

Feel free to link to it (or any other such Fractals I made from Lissa's Images)  (There are MANY posted around the forum)  (I get Obsessive!).

Should be good for a laugh if nothing else.  And prove the point that Fractals are not so easily defined as one may think...

If it follows the rules Mandelbrot mentioned in his book "The Fractal Geometry of Nature", than it is a fractal.