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« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2015, 06:32:18 PM »

really?
nope, now it's nine.. wink
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« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2015, 08:50:16 PM »

It is addictive. Thanks for links guys but now I want a trainable desktop version!
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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2015, 09:02:45 PM »

If you want to run it locally the Google source code is here:
https://github.com/google/deepdream
or an alternative implementation here:
https://github.com/jcjohnson/cnn-vis

They both run on top of Caffe, where several pretrained image models are available:
https://github.com/BVLC/caffe/wiki/Model-Zoo

The bad news: it is very difficult to run Caffe on Windows. I have tried for a couple of hours, and though it is possible to build the Caffe executable, I can not build the needed Python wrappers. I have also tried running on a VirtualBox Linux distribution, but here it is not possible to use the GPU (CUDA). I think I'll have to do a real Linux install.

Finally, try searching twitter for #deepdream - there are a lot of amazing images.
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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2015, 10:49:34 PM »

the interactive video guys published their source code:
http://317070.github.io/Dream/
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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2015, 11:50:55 PM »

mind-blowing stuff - thanks for sharing it!
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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2015, 02:44:39 AM »

 shocked I do hope that someone(two,three) in the FF collective can create an image model built strictly from all the images that might be extracted from the many deep zooms into the mandelbrot set that are available.

can this thing "watch" a video and use each frame to build an image model?
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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2015, 07:43:00 AM »

I don't know, but:
<a href="https://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=132462576&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=132462576&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA</a>
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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2015, 10:29:50 AM »

cool video, yay, although i think the modifications look quite similar, the effect is stunning, and using it for video is just a natural step wink
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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2015, 11:03:20 AM »

Wooow ... very trippy stuff man. Way cool!

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« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2015, 05:54:34 PM »

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We give also tribute, to this artist, Memo Aken, aka Chillheimer,

that made this first iconic film of the new fractal style, so rich, so mesmerizing, from its roots to the outer limits, entitled," Journey through the layers of the mind"

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Some body asked whats a mind, a fractal mind? A mind better than mind?
The fractal mind, is nothing more than a temporal niching soul, to a vehicle facilitator to manifest it self in a reality or a dimension! Simply stated : the mind needs a vehicle. The vehicle chosen is currently the brain. Thats not to say in time, it may choose another mechanized superior formatted thinking construct, such as a computerized manifestation yet invented to move into! And why not, its free, it can do what it wants to, if somebody were to convince it , it can! Will that somebody be a programmer magician man? We said the child first on hearing this, I never heard of this. So what, So what? The mind, comes in all kinds, all flavors, morphs on a dime, possesion of which, not understood,  if the mind is educated to expand it self without being limited, can it do anything? Can it? What do you think?
Can go ergo, where no mind has gone before, and what type of mind has  audacity, to trifle with mality, germinate what it can and then again dares to do, what it can do, dares to think, not only out side of the box, but outside the outside, where synthetic dieties dwell, its so able and nimble it creates and do, and does, magical things, the world as you are living it, cannot even dream of doing?
Just as one vehicle is, so is another, for the new mind homes, are coming earthy brother!






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« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2015, 06:05:43 PM »

3dickulus, if you look at the original blogpost I linked to in this thread's first post, if I recall correctly it mentions video in future work. If it wasn't in there, I'm absolutely certain that it was somewhere. This network works on static frames so all you can do would be to
- filter single frames
- do repeated filtering of frames that are altered in a different way (like, for instance, zooming in)

The later isn't actually a transformed video. it's basically an on-the-fly generated deep-zoom similar to one into the M-set. And it's shown in the above-linked vimeo video.
And the former... well you could just filter all the frames and play the filtered frames back in order, but as far as I know, there would not necessarily be temporal coherence. It might flicker quite a bit.
Though truly video-based techniques are in the works. It'll probably take quite some time (months or years, though I doubt decades) for them to actually arrive in the public but it'll happen.

And besides coherent filtering of entire videos, with such a temporally aware AI you could perhaps do some other fun stuff like, say, take some image and ask the network how it'll likely evolve in the next 100 frames, or super advanced "tweening" (where you interpolate what happens between two frames)

EDIT: here's what happens with multiple frames. note the jumps and lack of visual coherence:
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CI9mmXvWUAAhz_c.mp4
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« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2015, 01:56:37 AM »

kram, I didn't mean applying it to each frame in a video, although that little clip looks very interesting, I meant teach a network from only mandelbrot images, instead of zoo, plants, scenery and real world imagery. Then let it dream to see what it recognizes from the fractal image model in a real world image.
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« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2015, 02:21:56 AM »

Yeah, and the simulated brain get 'm trained with both the images from real-world stuff projected onto fractal, and the other way around. And of course iterate this a few times, to amply the weird glitches that will occur.
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« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2015, 02:32:37 AM »

Finally managed to run Google's deepdream network. It was ridiculous hard to build, this might be due to my inexperience with Linux, though.

Unfortunately, I going away on holiday without getting a chance to try other datasets or play with the parameters.

Example (with standard settings):

 
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« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2015, 02:43:44 AM »

 afro has anyone tried feed back? like taking the above image and sending it through another dream cycle?
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