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Author Topic: Kalles Fraktaler - inofficial wish-&buglist  (Read 17417 times)
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« on: February 01, 2014, 06:05:05 PM »

Hi!
Because the original Kalles Fraktaler Thread (with now 14 pages and still growing) is getting more and more cluttered and hard to search I'd like to have a kind of bug-/wishlist where all bugs and whishes are collected (and striked through when done).
Kalle, may I suggest that you copy this thread and start it as threadstarter, so you can collect stuff in the first post? everyone could see what is planned, not planned, done, maybe with a rating system for bugs/wishes  for example like this:
-one *(nice to have one day) to ***** (absolute showstopper),
-b=bug, w=wish,
-plus number to easily find a bug. and f for kalles fraktaler, m for movie maker

Example: 22 B ***

just a suggestion, this is how we did it at the software company I worked some years ago.. feel free to modifiy.m
kalle, please don't understand this as a try to put pressure on you. just to make the contributions/wishes from the community a little more organized.


so here are my points, collected over the last months:


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1f W **** free adjustable image size for other ratios than 16:9. (see whish 1m)
2f W *** make colour selection easier in general (see following points)
3f W *** add undo to colour selection
4f W **  add colour cycling (by scroll-bar?) to colour section
5f W *** possibility to set the first 10 renders of zoom sequence to a (manually set?)higher iteration to show the usual final minibrot in good detail
6f B ** disable clicking when in "store zoom out/resume" mode to prevent accidental clicks that can cost hours of render time.
7f W * idea: make pseudo 3d possible by using darker version of colour to all points facing southwards and lighter facing northwards.. (know what i mean?)

Movie Maker
1m W ***  rotation halves resolution. unclear what to put in these fields. please enable us to use resolutions like 1920*1920 in KF to safe even more render time
2m W *** use multicore! especially when colour cycling is enabled, movie generation takes longer than actual rendering..
3m W ** softer transition of speed changes possible? they are still visible, even with many set points. optimal: a checkbox you can klick that will make a speed change gliding between the frame number where its checked and the naxt frame number. For example: Frame 1= Speed 25 X (checkedcheckbox) Frame 20 Speed 60  results in a movie starting at Frame 1 with speed of 25 gradually slowing down over the next 20 keyframes until it reaches speed 60 at frame 20.
4m W *** change palette after rendering the zoom sequence? if you can cycle or do smooth colours, this should be possible right?
5m W **  change colourpalette to previously safed (kf)palette at set points in zoom sequence to keep things interesting in long zooms
6m B ****! examine zoom palette: I can't enter the frame numbers manually, the textbox doesn't react to my input. to reach frame 300 of 600 I have to click for 20 minutes to reach the middle... very annoying
7m W *** fast lofi-preview if "preview only" is checked. right now it takes as long as a full render, so relatively useless. maybe automatically shrink to 1/4 or 1/8 the original size?
8m W ** preview starting from user defined frame numbers, to have a short look if that part in the end of the movie will turn out as planned
9m W **** adjust framenumbers-name so you don't have to calculate all the time. good solution maybe to show the last selected frame in the preview window, so you have feedback what frame you really worked on.
10m B *** Ability to handle higher resolutions (needed because of 1m), 7680*.. leads to crash everytime..
11m W *** New and easier way to handle frame numbers. should be the same as the name of the actual jpg, so you don'T have to calculate anymore.
12m W ** Speed Control: automatically calculate speed into seconds, so I can enter the time directly instead of calculating frames-->sec.
13m W ** "Stillframes" - ability to let keyframes stand still for a time (in which you can then change e.g. the direction/speed of colour cycling)


ok, that's a lot already. sorry  embarrass

there's more utopian stuff wink but that'll have to wait probably..

regards,
chilli



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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2014, 08:04:34 PM »

*Bump*

No idea if this has been in use, but I think it's a good idea. No demands, just some wishes. Here are my votes:

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1f W *
2f W *** make colour selection easier in general (see following points)
3f W *****
4f W DONE (I think the Color offset does this?)
5f W *
6f B ***** (This is a Wish, not a Bug?)
7f W *

Movie Maker
1m W *
2m W ***
3m W ****
4m W *
5m W *
6m B * DONE (I think this is fixed?)
7m W *
8m W ****
9m W ******
10m B ******
11m W ****** (Isn't this the same as no 9?)
12m W *
13m W **
14m W ***** (NEW) make it possible to start a video at some deeper zoom level (no need to create the whole zoom-out sequence!)

My utopian stuff would be overlaying new palettes over the current one, using the layer modes (or blend modes) from The Gimp. Also to project the old palette onto the infinite waves, to have the best of both things.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2014, 11:04:27 PM »

Hi

Sorry for not replying on this.
I think your ideas are good and will give them a go.

I hope Botond would make a similar open interface when he eventually make movie support.
Perhaps using the same format? (even though it might be a little faster to change the x and y dimensions in the data smiley)
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2014, 12:58:40 PM »

One bug to report- starting a zoom sequence with the 64 bit verson crashes. However, starting with the 32 bit verson works fine. I am running Linux Mint 17 64 bit, with 64 bit wine.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2014, 02:03:32 PM »

One bug to report- starting a zoom sequence with the 64 bit verson crashes. However, starting with the 32 bit verson works fine. I am running Linux Mint 17 64 bit, with 64 bit wine.
That is great that the 64-bit version works at all on wine, others (youhn) only use the 32-bit version.
Anyway, unfortunately I have no access to Linux.
I am about to upload the latest source code...
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2014, 07:34:12 PM »

1 F W ***: A way to select a certain point which is inside an infinite spiral or a different shape (or to the end of an infinite needle or an infinite ''lightning bolt''.) which does not end into a minibrot. And let the program zoom into that point, the user can specify until which exponent it has to.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 09:50:33 PM »

That is great that the 64-bit version works at all on wine, others (youhn) only use the 32-bit version.

Quick update. I've been using the 64-bit version since a few weeks now. Only it crashes on zoom-out sequences, so for that purpose I sometimes switch back to 32-bit.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2014, 11:17:36 PM »

Hello,

Just started using Kalles Fraktaler.  I have it on a Windows 8, 64-Bit, laptop.  I downloaded the 64-Bit version, but when I run the program I get an error concerning the DLL (ldbl64.dll) not loading.  The program still seems to work but I have no way to know if it working as intended.  It is a bit slow but I don't know if that is due to program or my not-so-powerful laptop.

Any ideas?  Is there an issue with the DLL and Windows 8 64-Bit?

Thanks in Advance...
WKCook (A.K.A. - Diddy)
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 01:40:23 PM »

Hi Diddy

The ldbl64.dll file, included in the download zip, need to be located in the same directory as the exe file.
So you should extract them both into a folder somewhere on your hard-drive.

ldbl64.dll is not necessary but contains code for 80-bit long double and is invoked for locations deeper than e600 för standard power 2 Mandelbrot and earlier, i.e. e300, for other types and powers.

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2014, 01:24:58 AM »

Kalles,

I did place it in the same folder.  Doesn't seem to make a difference.  As I said, the program appears to be working, just slowly.
I am currently zoomed in to 4.33e624.  Maybe it is just a Windows 8 issue.

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 11:21:59 AM »

Kalles,

I did place it in the same folder.  Doesn't seem to make a difference.  As I said, the program appears to be working, just slowly.
I am currently zoomed in to 4.33e624.  Maybe it is just a Windows 8 issue.

Diddy
I have tested it on Windows 8 and it worked for me.
What is the exact message you get?

Thanks for the feedback
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2014, 02:19:38 PM »

I have tested it on Windows 8 and it worked for me.
What is the exact message you get?

Thanks for the feedback
Kalles fraktaler works fine for me on a Win 8 laptop, no error messages. Maybe the OP needs to update their verson of KF?
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2014, 05:23:56 AM »

I've been ZOOoooming for 3 days!  I will wait until I am satisfied and will get the error for you again.  It is slow but fun still.   wink

Currently at:

Re:  -1.28937501214747554233488930034144266735576739169911075151927291186376778324175378555014745137998047806477098267598085380735079224197127180225048227720688719312516863339803060057710116575149291210905257043684503094914542365795338908097615269027835112357984354725118004125134111531956822406589076325164550791963258136497556490815573962797025602561596225388804409726906389479559546635243459115205303818789238622946062864925371820245149422250155627456816744428128539979223598796040528533189719535658687287263235302816278508190819264636904656330888996509508281854448680371716602699576022380997847287430065419447525514867525367650813228880891636710994586040381774289665806393449531983245665381922605508604022163136802981328287987125912960258927660187929243716960659025

Im:  -0.4355477438221693598075970510825496613672553174015079470263755950641184688950541667789812791004520805126314541556345894771576467967828459990421896113738104296273639998050522344705387655379912011583223575110458539802803236365562340160397726320697889869903326954874952626244094624444245589976155378830430085782927707543226517790109060166574658697379050113527149590449703473522660851565681861748989405201520306616673291597516004122438791571530249786732207607858330908991927077880934188787237010170599675099580239412103897088703328034774548121337538401677919900566745512483805792576981819919424380425549948350984652494939712329987673044786124168796169873401413946522429926171601498169272841111099743495666724873197778683015451511156562348828535348609518932239988797

Zoom:  8.54533990273E739

I am patient.

Thank You . . . Diddy
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2014, 11:49:54 AM »

What the hell do you mean by slow? KF is amongst the fastest fractal calculations available to humankind! Perhaps you mean the reaction speed of the GUI? Or the layout and control of the gui, which makes your workproces slow ... ? Compared to what other program or reference do you think it's slow?
Please explain.
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2014, 12:36:44 PM »

 grin
oh well, waiting several hours for a single still frame can feel slow.. I guess that is what Diddy meant.
Otherwise, I'd suggest to try rendering your location in an 'old' program like fractal extreme and come back in 10-20 years to tell us about how slow slow really can be.. wink
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