sorry Felix, but thisis wrong.
since F=dp/dt (where p is the momentum - and motion means momentum), there is force where p changes.
and this will basically be the case at every (classical) interaction between two or more objects.
1.) well as you can clearly see in my graph above, that i DID exactly this. In the graph i displayed how the momentum in a Fluid is interchanged in an
inelastic collision
2.) Also: F=m*a
so without a reaction force you have only motion if mass is exposed to a acceleration field. Motion happens only if you apply additional EXTERNAL forces to a mass.
Have you ever solved mechanic equations? if there is an inequality in the mecanical forces, the remaining forces causes acceleration.
third law of newton says: every force must have a contradictionary force. in dynamics it's the acceleration who gives the contradictionary force to pressure drop
where
p=F/A
only in an External Gravity Field there happens a spontaneus motion without an external force. but this external field again is caused by the earths mass.
Bernoulli claims the existence of a acceleration field like gravity, but as third law of newton claims an origin, there is None!
also well let me try this: imagine a traffic jam, caused by road works. the velocity v1 of the cars just before the construction area is obviously determined by the velocity v2 of the cars passing the narrow point.
you might say: "well, if i pick one car, it could move with always with velocity v2." but this would only work if some nice drivers wait and let that car pass trough.
there might be this case, but it wont make a difference if you are just counting how many cars can pass in a given timespan.
replace the cars with fluid or gas particles and the road with the tube and we have the answer to your question.
It's an old example explaining bernoulli. but hey. where is the pressure AFTER the traffic jam?
if bernoulli is right, then the traffic jam should come back after the obstacle (e.g. closed lane due roadworks or accident)
you just gave an example of flow speed equal to source free divergent flow
Q=V/s -> Q= A*v
A1*v1 = A2*v2
But this doesn't answer my question of the origin of the field in Bernoulli.
the acceleration field can only be explained if there is a global pressure drop. equal to the acceleration needed to pass the narrow cross section as contradictionary force.
Instead what is criticized here is not volume and mass conservated flow of incompressible Fluids,
But the definition of acceleration fields. Due Newton. This pressure drop like explained in Bernoulli cannot be compensated, otherwhise it would violate against Newtons third law.
this should hopefully clear up two things:
- the equations you are mentioning are describing the whole system, not individual particles. and used like this they are correct.
- you are talking about a system consisting of many particles/bodies. there is no "the fluid"/itself you could reefer to like a single object.
to give another example of how a many-body system can accelerate "itself": blow up a balloon and let it go without knoting. well, you might notice, the air will accelerate right out of the balloon. you seem to misunderstand the concepts of pressure.
Ok. Easy to falsify this.
1.) your balloon has a higher pressure inside than the environment outside.
2.) if you claim the above to be right, then the air should also go through the entrance of the balloon if i take a needle and blast it
as proved quite obvious, your air will no longer go through the entrance of your broken balloon because i compensated the pressure between
internal volume to external volume.
3.) the acceleration and thus pressure of the air inside the balloon is caused by the spring force of the balloon gum.
4.) so the origin of the balloon's acceleration is therefore the potential energy stored in the spring force of the balloons gum.
5.) take an old balloon where the spring force of the gum has released. would it accelerate the air the same way out of the balloon
like a new balloon? NO.
i hope thats enough "falsification", without going further than the first few lines, since i cant find any concrete formulation of your "theory".
you should work on a scientific proof that your wings with "turbulence operated flaps" is giving a benefit, eg. via the proposed real life test, if you are not capable of a formal proof.
- i see no falsification delivered here. where did you falsify my statements so far?
- it's rather the point, that i could prove, that your balloon and your traffic examples did so far not work (take a needle and test it
)
- the questions i posed were not answered: "where comes the origin of an acceleration in bernouli's model when all forces are compensated? - impossible mechanics!"
also i don't really see this it is not unusual to observe chaotic behavior there, since you are dealing with a many-body system, but i don't see the use in calling chaos "Fractal bodies".
Are you trying to find a fractal formula for describing this specific chaotic behavior? well good luck then. i hope you succeed, it would contribute a lot to fluid physics.
well if you read the statements properly you would know why.
instead of solving a caotic system based on non linear equations i render the internal statics up to the point where they become instable.
it would be a new method finding instable moments in a emergent system.
the non-linear behaviour in my model is defined not internally but due externall information into the system.
by this it can be explained that all physically systems are amplifiers of external information....as there is still a long way to go, these statements in this thread are just the fundament of that "new house".