benoit-1842
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« on: June 20, 2012, 05:28:35 PM » |
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I very like doing fractal and I want to animate them UF5 looks an obvious choice..Am I right or there's a cheaper (or free) alternative to do image and video fractal... I'm a real beginner too....
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DarkBeam
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Fragments of the fractal -like the tip of it
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 05:34:08 PM » |
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Fractal Explorer!  Plus many others too, it depends on what you want to do FE can produce great fractals |
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2012, 06:29:48 PM » |
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http://www.chaospro.deIt's free and the interface is similar to UF5 It does not do deep zooms, but is a great starter program!
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David Makin
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2012, 09:16:09 PM » |
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To answer the question - no, it's worth around $1500 (as compared to other commercial gfx software).
I also recommend ChaosPro as a free alternative - ChaosPro can even use the older type of UF formulas so those can be imported from the UF formula database.
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taurus
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 12:54:29 AM » |
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To answer the question - no, it's worth around $1500 (as compared to other commercial gfx software).
in opposite to ulta fractal and all other fractal software, talented and skilled users can really make money by using photoshop & co. that's the difference in pricing. for a designer (who needs to live from his art) uf is nothing more than a toy - the bitter truth. I also recommend ChaosPro as a free alternative - ChaosPro can even use the older type of UF formulas so those can be imported from the UF formula database.
is my favorite free 2d fractal program as well. but it can't reach uf in ease of use. if you really want to establish a "workflow" with your fractals, ultra fractal is definitely worth the money. and if you're unsure yet, the trial version works nice...  |
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benoit-1842
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 05:41:15 AM » |
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I am a Vj so what's the best option for animation. I know that UF5 can do animation but is it the best ? And does the rendering is good in that software  thanx Ben |
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cKleinhuis
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2012, 09:27:10 AM » |
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In my eyes it is surely worth the price, deep zooms , excellent formula system, and very easy to use anims, layering and stuff downside is that it is suitable for 2d only as vj i would point you to gpu renderers, especially flame renderers, and 3d ones. . . Because as vj you need quantity, and fewer quality my point of view btw i own a uf5 and frederic always provides me with my serial when i need it |
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David Makin
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2012, 11:03:39 AM » |
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in opposite to ulta fractal and all other fractal software, talented and skilled users can really make money by using photoshop & co. that's the difference in pricing. for a designer (who needs to live from his art) uf is nothing more than a toy - the bitter truth.
Since it's possible to make UF do anything Photoshop or even say Maya can do (plus a whole lot more) (including real-time previews) I contest that statement !! Also anyone with even simplistic knowledge of coding can do this - whereas few are competent enough or have the tools to write plug-ins for Photoshop/Maya etc. |
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DarkBeam
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2012, 11:28:23 AM » |
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In my eyes it is surely worth the price, deep zooms , excellent formula system, and very easy to use anims, layering and stuff downside is that it is suitable for 2d only as vj i would point you to gpu renderers, especially flame renderers, and 3d ones. . . Because as vj you need quantity, and fewer quality my point of view Mine too!  |
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2012, 11:29:50 AM » |
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Since it's possible to make UF do anything Photoshop or even say Maya can do (plus a whole lot more) (including real-time previews) I contest that statement !!
Since when can UF import (and more importantly Export) 3D models in obj, fbx, 3ds, and other formats? I'm afraid I must contest that statement !! |
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2012, 12:05:00 PM » |
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Since when can UF import (and more importantly Export) 3D models in obj, fbx, 3ds, and other formats?
yes, i must have missed something too. it is some time ago, since i played with the trial of uf5, but i never noticed a brush tool or a nurbs modeller there. I know that UF5 can do animation but is it the best ? difficult question. it's like asking which instrument is the best - guitar or piano. it' a matter of what YOU want. christian pointed out well. uf is surely the most advanced fractal software (developped for decades), but only for 2d fractals. gpu renderer are surely the fastest, but especially fragmentarium, needs some background knowlege and not every hardware runs it at the first try. it's up to you - play around with all you can get and decide yourself. if you're looking for a programm, that automatically creates nice animations, with two or three clicks, i'm afraid you won't be happy with all mentioned here... |
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2012, 12:33:10 PM » |
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for me ultrafractal has a special role, because in my eyes they moved the formula definition forwards, extending the fractint base, and ultrafractal has always been a resource for grabbing out the formulas from it, the decent formula editor with dynamically (animatable) properties is just amazing, and as i said before, the animation feature is really sophisticated in the 90s i was always wanting to have a program that allows deep zoom animations of morphing fractals, and since uf5 had the animation edition my wish came true, although i didnt use it as much as i wanted, but for formula editing with native complex number parsing it is just beautiful and the thing i love even more than the animation feature is the object code structure that was introduced with uf5, since then it was an ease to implement hybrid fractals, which basically offers the endles fractal generation features known from mandelbulber or mandelbulb3d.... dont know if chaospro has adopted this object structure ... and hence you can just copy and paste the amazing long locations provided by pauldelbrot, and it just renders it is nice, did i mention network rendering ?!   |
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2012, 10:35:41 PM » |
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Since when can UF import (and more importantly Export) 3D models in obj, fbx, 3ds, and other formats?
I'm afraid I must contest that statement !!
Apart from solid printing why else would you need to export ? |
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2012, 10:43:24 PM » |
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Apart from solid printing why else would you need to export ?
To do REAL Art!    |
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2012, 10:01:49 AM » |
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I am a Vj so what's the best option for animation. I know that UF5 can do animation but is it the best ? And does the rendering is good in that software thanx Ben What about stealing vids on Youtube like some of your colleagues? |
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