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Title: Using formulas
Post by: Martial on December 18, 2011, 10:43:42 PM
Bonjour
I am new to this forum and to mandelbulb3d
I have copy with notepad some formulas coming from the forum
Sometime i clic open and txt icone and i have a windows to paste the formula
But most of time i click open and txt icone and nothing arrive ,no place to paste the formula
Why this situation :sometime it works ,sometine no ?

Thanks


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: blob on December 19, 2011, 09:32:19 AM
The dialog pops up only when there are no parameters in the clipboard. If nothing pops up, then the parameters stored in the clipboard have been loaded by M3D.


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: Martial on December 19, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
Ok Thanks
But a way to clear the clip board of Mandelboard when we open it
It seems basic but i don't find how


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: Jesse on December 19, 2011, 03:13:28 PM
Just copy a number or something else in an edit field to make the current clipboard text invalid.


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: Martial on December 19, 2011, 04:12:13 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: Martial on December 19, 2011, 04:43:32 PM
It was working the first time i did it but since it seems not works
I have try to close the programm and reopen several times ,modifying ZStart parameter or X mid or other param,eters using number or letters
When i click after ''open'' following by ''Txt''still don't have the windows to put by paste the formula
just the invit to press calculate 3d to render 


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: Jesse on December 19, 2011, 10:38:20 PM
You have to copy some letters with ctrl+c, that will put this text onto the clipboard...
guessing that you are on a windows system, else there should be some equal shortcuts for.


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: Martial on December 20, 2011, 01:22:21 AM
Thanks
I catch it now
Yes i am in windows

Martial


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on December 22, 2011, 07:40:18 PM
I hijack this thread (as usual) to say that I have released a new formula, another Barnsley commutative :dink:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: Jesse on December 22, 2011, 09:03:46 PM
I guess we can't really do serious damage to this thread  :dink:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 07, 2012, 06:41:28 PM
Indeed, added too the missing sacred solid... Dodeca!...  :o (It's a bit slower than normal ones but sooo fun)


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: blob on January 07, 2012, 07:04:00 PM
Indeed, added too the missing sacred solid... Dodeca!...  :o (It's a bit slower than normal ones but sooo fun)
That's very cool, I was just thinking about asking you for one.  O0

(So far I had been using a pseudo one adapted from the icosahedron one)

Feel free to do a tetrahedron one as well if that's possible. (and any other non platonic polyhedra would be great also if you feel like doing it).

Cheers.


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 07, 2012, 07:16:27 PM
Indeed, added too the missing sacred solid... Dodeca!...  :o (It's a bit slower than normal ones but sooo fun)
That's very cool, I was just thinking about asking you for one.  O0

(So far I had been using a pseudo one adapted from the icosahedron one)

Feel free to do a tetrahedron one as well if that's possible. (and any other non platonic polyhedra would be great also if you feel like doing it).

Cheers.

 :o :o :o Brilliant hack :beer: - That is considerably faster than my version (less flexible but faster ;) )
With scale = 2.63 both versions give almost the same results except for a rotation difference. I add this to my db also (your will be the normal entry and mine will be called "ex" )


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: blob on January 07, 2012, 07:39:04 PM
Cool, and thanks for the compliment. ;D


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 09, 2012, 06:16:04 PM
Using a workaround for temporary storing space I was able to implement Manowar formula; I combined it with Phoenix formula and added a rotation. Some "liquid" effects can be achieved, I would like to see those in glass...

(http://img38.imagefra.me/i519/jenc_ec6_u0.jpg) (http://i.imagefra.me/3baivuca)Uploaded at ImageFra.me (http://imagefra.me/)


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 11, 2012, 07:43:49 PM
 :o Done a Gnarly heightfield with DIFS!!! Ty Jesse for the sample code... :angel1:

It requires a single iteration, but generates a great 3D heightfield (without a bitmap as input)! :D Itercount for Gnarl can be customized inside the formula pars, I think with the same system we can get heightfields from a lot of formulas. Less easy btw. :hurt:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 21, 2012, 06:45:07 PM
Sample images from 'PolyPyraIFS'... ;)


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 12:28:41 PM
 :w00t: :ok: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink:

This just can't be true! Tell me I am dreaming :hmh:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: knighty on January 22, 2012, 12:35:30 PM
This just can't be true! Tell me I am dreaming :hmh:
It's true! you are not deaming.  ;D


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 12:36:48 PM
Well, not true after all. :o :D :banana: :banana: :banana:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: knighty on January 22, 2012, 12:43:19 PM
Niiiice! :surprised: :chilli:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 12:54:37 PM
Niiiice! :surprised: :chilli:

Oh thanks friend, the sequence is...

0. Rot3D(x,y,z,0) + Shift3D(0,0,0) :dink:
1. Polyfold; pi shift seems to work way better...
theta = roundint((-atan2(x,y)+pi)/twopi*order)/order*twopi
theta = theta + shift*degtorad
x' = x cos theta - y sin theta
y' = x sin theta + y cos theta
2. Do the DE, then add something to x
3. Scale ;)


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: cKleinhuis on January 22, 2012, 02:24:27 PM
i can not find "Rot3D" in the formula lists ... do i need to update formulas ?
can you post an m3d example ?


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 04:23:03 PM
It was an example for Knighty only, in MB you don't need this, play with each formula settings ;)


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
... and extending Polyfold to 3D? Folding in the same way x and z leads more or less to ... this :o :hmh: :w00t:

An alien tree-planet? Well well :alien:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: cKleinhuis on January 22, 2012, 06:34:18 PM
??? but you are showing mandelbulber screenshots ???


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 06:35:30 PM
??? but you are showing mandelbulber screenshots ???

No, Mandelbulb3D :yes:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 06:44:03 PM
Okay, here the tree planet parameter :dink:


Mandelbulb3Dv17{
V.....S....O/...A....2....U/leiL6gN3.9C2jBWDnm4E8mTLwUTB1.AAreQHZkN..TpES5Gi1axj
................................OaNaNaNadz1........A./..................y.2.....
................/M.0/....6.9/...w.....E2.....QzIXLua2PrD/..........m/dkpXm1....U
z.....kD12../..........wz..................................u1....y1...sD...../..
.w1...sDECayXi7lqx1..........UjJy0vma8ej2oQ9jigdWuXbst9g9PecyYmQF6ua2PrDFMnrnNkX
Cr1YXdzcPGgRzqGthwuma8eD......Ya..............kD.2....sD..E.....................
.............oAnAr1...sD....z.MRg4.6qlO..P5f/.qRg4..slO.UW5f/.ISg4......A....k1.
..................kz.wD....U..6.P....M4.........W....M0...E6....0/...I1.....Sn42
...U.qFG98rb2zjQRYoWmx7lz16.mc..zXCc.El18XGQeGyDjvIRhrVAkz1..........2.28.kFrA0.
FWb96aAIVzvh1se7Umvxz0........../6U0.wzzz1................................E.0c..
zzzz.................................2U.8.kzzzD.................................
/6U0.wzzz1...................................sSJG.knDzA.eCFZvxB.Dzwn.wo78J9D.wwn
D1.ztkCax/knDzA.k8oPsdC.Dzwn..zGnnv0.wwnD1UsIN0Qe1knDzA.bqpwDi..Dzwn.YEP.....wwn
D1.Qq3hT0/knDzA...EsUa3.eeWCNq0.IJ36wk8.wyLsUa3..YX9ktqN........................
E....6....E.....I....Y....kQkVKNmJKG4B3.H/kI..........................U1C.U1Dwk1
0................ksyzAnAnAnAzXzD.............................U.E........kz1.....
...wz.........zD........kz14hE2Jv5G0./..........................................
.....................2.....3....8.....pPgZbFjl4N3VLG4B3.........................
....4MU/0.U.....................................................................
..cF./.......U.EMo0FIhT67.2........0.3F92FpyVY.E................................
................................}

Update the database to see the effect  ^-^


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: knighty on January 22, 2012, 07:00:12 PM
Thank you very much for the formula.  :)


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: knighty on January 22, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
And that tree planet is absolutely wonderland. ;D


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 07:18:56 PM
It's a Barnsley-based transform, probably you can do better making it continue? With some abs() but don't know exactly how. :-\


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: blob on January 22, 2012, 07:44:45 PM
Luca, do you think you can make a formula for those ones?

(http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2331.0;attach=1152;image)

http://www.fractalforums.com/theory/mandelbrot-pearls/


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 22, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
No, it's not purely linear/shift/fold and I fear that it's outrageously complicated :) For now use the existing ones


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: blob on January 22, 2012, 07:58:09 PM
Ok then, I'll wait. Thanks for the heads up.


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: cKleinhuis on January 22, 2012, 08:44:47 PM
??? but you are showing mandelbulber screenshots ???

No, Mandelbulb3D :yes:

sure, i mean t mandelbulb, i am not sure which formula package to update, i used the final.zip from your signature, and i just see 3 spheres ....


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: bib on January 22, 2012, 08:48:01 PM
i used the final.zip from your signature, and i just see 3 spheres ....

The link in his signature leads to an outdated post. Use this one: http://www.fractalforums.com/mandelbulb-3d/re-custom-formulas-and-transforms-release-t9810/


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: bib on January 22, 2012, 09:06:44 PM
PolyFoldIFS FTW!


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 23, 2012, 11:05:35 AM
PolyFoldIFS FTW!

 :beer:

And I also tested an Amazing Box - based formula; here a render with scale = 1 (that works if you are a bit careful) :dink: Seven iterations only :o

Here I used a simple box as baseshape but any shape can be used. Box is good because it has straight edges and they look nice when projected in a sphere. (did you know?) :dink:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: knighty on January 23, 2012, 11:50:05 AM
 :worm:  :w00t:  :worm:

Is it possible to allow pre-transforms with those dIFS in MB3D? (in a next version of course)


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: KRAFTWERK on January 23, 2012, 11:50:25 AM
And that tree planet is absolutely wonderland. ;D

I second that, supercool!  O0


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: knighty on January 23, 2012, 11:51:20 AM
 :dink:


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on January 23, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
I tried to put MinR but it did not work, I am stupid :sad1: retry one day


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: DarkBeam on February 09, 2012, 01:29:19 PM
 :banana: :banana: :banana: :worm: Yessss it works!!!!


Title: Re: Using formulas
Post by: Jesse on February 09, 2012, 02:04:00 PM
Is it possible to allow pre-transforms with those dIFS in MB3D? (in a next version of course)

I will allow pretransforms with the usual escapetime formulas plus dIFS afterwards, works for non-analytic formulas not really well - only a few iterations maybe: