Title: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: cKleinhuis on April 12, 2011, 09:51:53 PM i am wondering since the first fractal face i saw exploring the fractal world, they always look kinda angered, angry or scared, sometimes i really was flashed when i relized that i was looked at by a face staring at me from the fractal browser, as a starter here some of my first findings:
the "albert K" fractal, is a hybrid fractal i found in late 90s it is also available as ultrafractal formula, it is a combination of a "mandelbrot, phoenix" formula: http://trifox77.deviantart.com/art/Albert-K-48007505?q=gallery%3Atrifox77%2F19538019&qo=7 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs13/f/2007/034/c/a/Albert_K__by_trifox77.jpg) my user image is a variant of this formula as well ;) the faceman is an really old buddy: http://trifox77.deviantart.com/art/Faceman-Alternating-Fractal-48007362?q=gallery%3Atrifox77%2F19538019&qo=6 (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs15/f/2007/034/d/9/Faceman_Alternating_Fractal_by_trifox77.jpg) a little "funnier" but in my view more "nasty" and "army" heavy than funny, somehow lookin like a soldier with an helmet http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10 (http://nocache-nocookies.digitalgott.com/gallery/0/63_13_03_08_11_22_22_3.jpg) something that really looks like a face, but more like wolve is this one, made with mutatorkammer, dynamically created fractal formula, formula lost ( i believe ) http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9 (http://nocache-nocookies.digitalgott.com/gallery/0/63_13_03_08_11_22_21_2.jpg) the newton fractal as a hybrid member always leads to (skull-)face like structures ;) And when i browse the internet and the gallery i find more and more images resembling face-like structurs for example: "The Scream" by Samuel Monnier http://www.algorithmic-worlds.net/blog/blog.php?Post=20110217 (http://www.algorithmic-worlds.net/images/20110213-ds14.jpg) here is one recently uploaded to the gallery by kali: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=6630 (http://nocache-nocookies.digitalgott.com/gallery/6/3869_10_04_11_4_33_56.jpeg) if that is not scary i dont know, and this leads me to the question, is that a general behaviour to produce konkave-structures (mouth) konvex-structures(eyes,nose) in a manner that the konkave structure somehow leads to drastic results, all the images are somehow fascinating, but i would love to see something really friendly and nice looking out of these structures, something that i can put on my entrance wall :D so, i would like to call for: HAPPY FRACTAL FACES Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: heavenriver on April 12, 2011, 10:02:10 PM Why that, you can get really funny things with fractals too. I think it's not easy to accomplish with any fractal program other than UF, but still...
Have a look at this: http://paddlin-maddlin.deviantart.com/art/Face-to-Face-204104840 Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: cKleinhuis on April 12, 2011, 10:22:59 PM textures or orbit traps do not count as fractal images ;)
its hard to describe what i mean, but ... Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: heavenriver on April 12, 2011, 10:34:58 PM Then you shouldn't consider Mandelbulbs either... unless you mean you're refusing anything beyond the single layer fractal threshold. I bet it's difficult to get funny faces with simple fractal structure, instead of fractal art. But life is like that too. It's easy to be sad for something, whereas happiness requires effort and hard work. ;P
Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Sockratease on April 12, 2011, 11:26:20 PM textures or orbit traps do not count as fractal images ;) UNLESS it's a texture of Lissa in an orbit trap! Then it's a fractal because She says so. Trust me; If Lissa says so, it becomes True (even if I have to burn every book with the now-wrong definitions and re-write them all myself!). Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: tomot on April 12, 2011, 11:41:45 PM Its all in the Orientation, and how we perceive things. Turn them 45, or 180 degrees and its no longer an issue. Its not unlike the icons which are supposed to denote :dink: versus :angry:
I never find it hard to be happy. Its all in how one looks at life. Personally speaking: The older I get the happier I am becoming. I have transferred that energy, many times to total strangers, who ask me, "why are you so happy?" Before you know it they also feel better about themselves. cheers! Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Sockratease on April 13, 2011, 01:00:49 AM BOO!
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/tierz.png) Mutatorkammer made this a long time ago: (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/mickey.jpg) And a Chaoscope Self-Portrait: (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/self-portrait.gif) The closest I ever came to a full humanoid body, titled Man Wearing A Fez (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/man-wearing-a-fez.png) This one always looked happy to me: (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/mask.png) So much so that I made it into this: (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/maskblink.gif) See if you can guess whose eyes I used... ... And just because it doesn't count: (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/ms7.jpg) Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: cKleinhuis on April 13, 2011, 01:20:52 AM kk, sock got +1 happy fractal
Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Sockratease on April 13, 2011, 01:34:11 AM What about a fragment of an abandoned project that will not be finished in time for the competition?
http://www.vimeo.com/22312781 Just a little bit of post production involved, I guess... Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Kali on April 13, 2011, 03:09:47 AM I can't answer your question, Christian, but I can make some more contributions:
This is an evil formula of mine (with a variation of it I made my current profile image, and the one I used before): z=(-4/c)^z+1/c (http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6544/evilsp.jpg) I found that most variations using c^z in some way, makes evil things :evil1: Here is my old profile picture: (http://hphotos-snc4.fbcdn.net/135659_1691284291799_1528504553_1680014_6555946_o.jpg) I lost parameters for these! (the bottom part is another layer) But, as we have a lady participating in this thread, I made something she would like a little more... also to show that not all is evil in the fractal world :dink: (http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168091_1710043320763_1528504553_1729707_1382246_n.jpg?dl=1) (it's an hybrid made of a complex-power formula and a regular Mandelbrot) Welcome to FF, Alice :beer: Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: cKleinhuis on April 13, 2011, 11:19:22 AM rofl sock, how do you do the animation ?!?!?
What about a fragment of an abandoned project that will not be finished in time for the competition? http://www.vimeo.com/22312781 Just a little bit of post production involved, I guess... Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Sockratease on April 13, 2011, 11:35:47 AM rofl sock, how do you do the animation ?!?!? Same way as last year's contest entry O0 There's an old program called 3D Me Now, meant to make photographs talk. But it works on any still image, even fractals! (I once got very interesting results using just a plain black square, and giving it the same treatment!). Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Don Whitaker on April 13, 2011, 05:28:53 PM I think this guy is up to something, but at least he's smiling. :evil1:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5264/5590874127_005c5715b5.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mothernaturevideos/5590874127/) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVprLqy8H60 Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: cKleinhuis on April 13, 2011, 05:56:43 PM don whitaker +1 happy fractal face
Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Kali on April 13, 2011, 07:55:28 PM Oh I didn't understood that you wanted happy faces, sorry! :embarrass:
I was just testing Luca's implementation of Ducks formula into Mandelbulb 3D, and found this sort of happy chicken! :D :D :D (http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/3046/happyface.jpg) Mandelbulb3Dv16{ N.....S....O/...Y/...2....Ef9ABQ824YzS.XwTGlKPxDzBB6HD6vcy90RKdzLTmgzaCwEDddq5sD ................................yzPYLrlAY/2........6./..................y.2..... ................/ME//....6............E2.....IEdH7frOnjD/..........c./...w1/...U z.....kD..../2EsuFVf53imzcNaNaNaNayj.............................y1...sD...../.. .w1...sDQx9BKtwLsv1eSOwiGvdvyC9L.u2Ho.gDQzJ/jNdtfvXgh9otcBrxywSXPnGT29iDalVvv50U Ov9w4OHkHcwqy4p0SGj2qgjD......Y7......................sD..kz.................... ..............................LRR6.0qpV.UOL50UnRR6.orpV.cVL50.ESR6.............. .....................wzzz1.U..6.P....k1...EB....L....c3...kB....8/...I1....UOl22 ...U.eoZgzjdqZpz8R7vzPeRN/6.0c..zzzz............5wyBIC4OWz1..........IF2m2UhNC2. G1sfGXWAWz9hfcoeQ0Y3.nA1kwdtbXrj/6U0.wzzz1................................E.0c.. zzzz.................................2U.8.kzzzD................................. /6U0.wzzz1....................................6EU.......zz/6FG1.tANU.szD/PX5..gS q/EzTNie31kzE0A.Qs5U./0.......bT.026.......ly/6EU.......Mw5U./0......kqT.026.... ...kz/6EU..........U./0.zz/6FG1.yzHkqs/.xzZteKA................................. E....A....E.....I....2....kL/7qQN/UPbxoMo/UQ..........................k/9....... ..........E91lluWPX4z0........zj................................................ ................................................................................ .....................2.....3....1....wJMYFqE.................................... ..............................zD........kz1........wz........................... ................................................................................ ................................/....E/.........TloPbF1F........................ ........................................U.2..................................... ................................................................................ ............................................} Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Bent-Winged Angel on April 14, 2011, 07:15:49 PM Me's thinks you probably should sleep with the lights on!
(http://nocache-nocookies.digitalgott.com/gallery/2/1953_06_06_10_12_29_37.jpeg) Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: fractower on April 14, 2011, 08:56:17 PM Angry robot clown
(http://nocache-nocookies.digitalgott.com/gallery/3/2792_23_08_10_9_54_59.jpeg) Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Sockratease on April 15, 2011, 01:04:21 AM This was my first avatar here all those years ago...
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/bluedalaman.jpg) That's a Happy One! Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Wel lEnTaoed on April 15, 2011, 06:24:30 PM looks like Napoleon Bonaparte!
(http://nocache-nocookies.digitalgott.com/gallery/0/63_13_03_08_11_22_22_3.jpg) Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Kali on April 19, 2011, 08:04:52 PM Looking for new ways of coloring Ducks, I found this guy, with a little creepy but still happy face... and remembered this thread :D
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3770/happyface2.jpg) Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Softology on April 20, 2011, 06:24:26 AM Here is a fractal demon :evil1: (also a Ducks fractal).
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5307/5636945970_16ce7a34b0_o.png) All of these come down to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia Jason. Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Hypercube on May 04, 2011, 03:51:29 AM Its not just fractal faces.
Look at the faces in the bark of a tree or the scratches on your wall. Humans are hardwired for human like faces. Any slight variation away from the healthy norm is seen as grotesque. Since any pattern that is somewhat facelike is highly unlikely to be exceptionally facelike most of them will appear to us as bizarre and unfriendly. Leonardo was said to have said that any good apprentice should be able to get inspiration from the faces in the toilet walls and floor. BTW if you turn many of these images upside down they look a lot happier as the main cue you are taking is probably the curve of the mouth. Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: DOMEHEAD on June 10, 2011, 10:47:13 AM Really interesting discussion. For something that most people would consider abstract, the first thing people do when they see fractals is to look for something familiar. Christopher Hitchens is right when he refers to us pattern-seeking animals!
Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Sockratease on March 03, 2012, 02:39:04 PM Just realized I never posted this video here - this old thread seemed the best place for it.
http://vimeo.com/22312781 Not all fractal faces are human! Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Alef on March 03, 2012, 02:47:13 PM Quote why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Becouse they are wor of devil :fiery: :evil1:Robot is quite a happy face. Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Kali on March 03, 2012, 08:10:04 PM But you already did it! check the first posts ;D
Just realized I never posted this video here - this old thread seemed the best place for it. http://vimeo.com/22312781 Not all fractal faces are human! Cool video btw Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: yv3 on March 03, 2012, 08:31:54 PM An Ork :)
(http://yv3.bplaced.net/gallery/yFract%20Beta/yFractalExplorer_011.jpg) I lost the parameter file :(. Don't even know which fractal type it is, i made it with my tool. An Kenny, at breakfast :) (http://yv3.bplaced.net/gallery/yFract/25345.jpg) Greetings Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: Sockratease on March 03, 2012, 08:37:00 PM But you already did it! check the first posts ;D Cool video btw Oh - weird, it didn't show when I posted that. Must be a browser cookie issue or something. But why let Reality encroach on things? Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: simon.snake on March 03, 2012, 09:08:38 PM I have not really noticed many faces as such, although many circular or oval shapes are seen as eyes.
However, here's one of my own FractInt formulas which creates this lovely gremlin type of character: (http://www.needanother.co.uk/uploads/fract077.gif) Doesn't seem an unfriendly face to me. Simon Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: zonepatcher on March 08, 2012, 09:18:25 AM this is a fun thought ??...why ???..besides faces..what about dogs n cats ??...i see lots of em...do you ??..what about dere faces..
lookie here atta me fractal pets... (http://farm1.staticflickr.com/27/57088435_28755b7f80_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychoactivartz/57088435/) Bast...or Bastet (http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychoactivartz/57088435/) by Zone Patcher (http://www.flickr.com/people/psychoactivartz/), on Flickr ancient Eygptian God Bast...or my houndDogg (http://farm1.staticflickr.com/33/51504149_6b059096c7_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychoactivartz/51504149/) Dawwghaa (http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychoactivartz/51504149/) by Zone Patcher (http://www.flickr.com/people/psychoactivartz/), on Flickr I hav Bunches of Frac critters...I bribe em wit nutrolls... all of da examples were really lovely...very cool here is a link ta my fractal faces http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychoactivartz/sets/72157604107002161/ now here is a different kind of fractal face..self created wit incendia..ck it out (http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4038/4512019048_8aee300193_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychoactivartz/4512019048/) Still Life wit Transfigured Hope (http://www.flickr.com/photos/psychoactivartz/4512019048/) by Zone Patcher (http://www.flickr.com/people/psychoactivartz/), on Flickr it's a 2 it..a few 3's Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: asimes on March 15, 2012, 05:22:54 AM (http://i.imgur.com/H0GDM.png)
Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: lxh on March 17, 2012, 04:53:32 AM I guess my english is not good enough to chat with you guys about scary faces.
But is there a contest for that? ;D Mandelbulb3Dv17{ X....UK....s/...w....2.....TjjPKSeFwzOOhdWljXG.EThPUodTIPz9ME9CrM/ACzqnsQHAxUbyj ................................1q2VBM3Uo.2........A./..................y.2..... ................/M.0/....6Ex....5/....E2.....EHD0Ev5o9nD/.......BJJ/0dkpXm1.Deee z.....kD12../..........wz..................................u1....y1...sD...../.. .w1...sDkQmIInhkuv9/0bF8iYgAzUsiWScAHsjD7gdJrYdiaw9A/23O15//zuHO6G9OfrmD4nUJd/k7 iwHVXTNcYQ9my.sHjDdQsPmD......I5..............kD.2....sD..kz.................... .............oAnAr1...sD....z./So9.gsFj.EZ5x0.TSo9.YuFj.kg5x0.xSo9......B....k1. .....orDZz1.......kz......UQ.c6.k1...61...kA....z.....5....F....8/....3.....S/5Y ...U.ydel0UeYF1.TeOg.wo7..6.nc..zzzz..EizccZWGyD/EdGkxmWcz1...........k.8.kXWF1. .sM93P58iz9.MmnWK2zwz0........../BmMnTeQ//..IXBzAbNvz0klrlkCx9zj.Ysqe8xOlzH.0c.. zzzz.................................o2.Q2jj8e3..QdxkCOevy9.fEHzAJEjz.Udmd17Q3zD B/U2tvfWO/..APQaa71jz0UYYedluovD.M0O5IcKlz1...uBZ.U7Eg..3iFoTu2..06U.sTCnueM.YXB b.UtIt6Ul/k6Uk/.by4crI0.a.l0.IgQUSH7.M029.UTp/uBZ.U7Eg..uU5crI0.a.l0.IjSUSH7.M02 9.E0y/uBZ.U7Eg.....crI0.zzFoTu2.yzngi84.xzZX.45................................. E....6....E.....I....c....kFZtKGiF5IjRLNm/.IjR5.iJ4..................6U.06U.06U. 0..................4./........0E...................wz........./E........6.2..... ..............0E...................wz........................................... .....................2.....3....3....2JRdt4RdB4................................. .....6..0...............................................................kz1..... ................................................................................ ................................} Hope you like it. Greets, Alex PS: This is my first post here and i should introduce myself in Meets & Greets. But my english ... sorry *G Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: jehovajah on April 06, 2012, 05:41:57 AM If we consider , for a moment, the very wide variety of faces that we perceive as faces in nature, from those of insects, mammals, Lizards etc , we may gain a perspective on our "face recognition software" in our brains.
Naturally we will want to be drawn to "mummys" face and away from any others , only gradually learning to accept other faces. It is a natural instinct to be scared of say the face of a bee, or a fly. After all, they do not look anything like your mothers face! Title: Re: why do look fractal faces always so scary ? Post by: ker2x on April 06, 2012, 09:17:12 AM It is a natural instinct to be scared of say the face of a bee, or a fly. After all, they do not look anything like your mothers face! Hopefully ;D |