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Fractalforums.com Spring 2011 Fractal Art Contest

fort the 4th time in history the fractalforums.com Fractal Art Spring Contest is held in
Memorial of Benoit B. Mandelbrot (20 November 1924 – 14 October 2010).
 
Deadline 1st of May 2011
Voting starts at 1st of May 2011 and lasts until 1st June 2011
Begin: Now!
Every contestant is allowed to post 3 Entries in each section

Voting will be disabled in the gallery sections
The contest will be dedicated to "the man of the brot" - Dr. Benoit Mandelbrot (20 November 1924 – 14 October 2010)
In the first year the contest had around 42 contributors, in the second year the Contest grew to 58 contributors, last years
contest went through the roof concerning contributors there where all in all 130 entries for last years contest. This year
we are following the ideas to make the voting more balanced, so voting is disabled in the gallery until deadline.


and features the following sections:

- Movie - any video you like containing any type of fractal content, post processing and layering is allowed
Upload into the Gallery here: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=53

- 2d - here is the restriction that it has to be created with a single "render" operation in a fractal program, signing is ok
http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=54

- 3d/composition - here everything is allowed, but it has to contain something "fractalish"
http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=55


Prizes:

due to the lack of a sponsor i will provide the winners in each section with a cup printed the winning image
on it, as every year



start now, and have fun!
regards
Fractalforums.com Admin Team



start producing !

the Fractalforums.com Admin Team

Ok to enter an existing fractal? I have a couple of fractals featuring Benoit.

I don't see any reason why older works should be disallowed.

Making something special for the contest is nice, but I doubt it's an absolute requirement.

Only Christian knows for sure. I'm sure he'll speak up if it's a problem.

Hi Christian,

I had to use "bulk upload", because normal upload doesn't work as the category is not appearing in the list.
Also cannot edit the post, because of the same reason.

Thanks,

The movie forum doesn't seem to allow posts of video links. The only options are image upload and bulk image upload. Neither of which seems to allow posting a Vimeo or YouTube link. Hope this can be rectified soon...

The category is there, just hard to see I guess.  http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=52

The "add a picture" link worked fine for me.  Not sure if that's due to being a moderator - have to get Christian to check permissions...



No, the gallery does not support video.

This has always been handled by posting a still from the movie in the gallery, and linking to the video in the description.  The video will play from there as it does in the regular forum posts.  Hope that helps.

I can see the categories there, but they don't appear in the editor, not automatically and neither when I search for them in the dropdown list...

Interesting.

I never tried it that way, so was unaware it didn't work!

If you enter the category you wish to post in, then scroll to the bottom and use the add image link in there, it will default to that category.

That's just a work around, obviously.  But it will get you started until this can be fixed   O0

Thanks for pointing it out.

Oh sorry to bother you but perhaps I can't express myself correctly, so you aren't getting it... I already tried clicking on "add picture", but it doesn't work any way because it doesn't select automatically the correct category in the message editor, and when I search for them, they aren't there! Just a category that says "Competitions", but the subcategories are missing... perhaps you as an administrator don't have this problem, and it's a matter of privileges.

Permissions appear to be set correctly, and you do have an image in there already  (it appears to be correctly categorized, it is a 2D image, right?) - how did that image get posted if you can't access the correct area?

You are right.  I am not understanding the problem.

As I said before, I had to use "bulk upload"...
I'll post further images that way, no big deal, just wanted to notify about the problem.

To make it clearer, I'll show you the screenshots

The first is what I get when I click on "add picture" from the 2d section of the competition gallery...
the category is not automatically chosen, so I can't just post that way.
The second image is when I look for the category in the dropdown list, the subcategories are missing.

Understood? :)

Same here. I tried it after reading this post and only Bulk Adding pictures shows the correct category. Tried it in the 3D section, though, so it seems to be an issue in both categories

OK - I made a test member account to confirm this.

I have no idea why it is acting as it is, but I have confirmed what was being said here  (not that I doubted it, but I still had to confirm it!).

If Christian doesn't show up and deal with it shortly, I'll risk breaking the entire gallery and see if I can't play around with the permissions or whatever else may be causing this!  But the permissions all looked OK when I checked them earlier  (but sometimes these things set permissions in more than one place).

Meanwhile, just bulk add, or wait for it to be fixed.  Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for reporting it    :headbatting:

i have set gallery öpermissions to regular members now, perhaps it is workin now ?

I just checked with the test account, and it is unchanged.  Still not working.

Not sure what's wrong.  I checked everything I could find.  Maybe make a new version and we can then move the existing uploads there once it's working?  (the old category can then be deleted)

how are the images upload that are visible in the galleries?
at the bottomn there should now be an add image button... O0 :police:

It was stated that only the "Bulk Add" option works to get the images uploaded, and that's how the member uploaded images got there..

My own was uploaded normally, but the categories appear normally for Admin and Moderators.  That's why I created our "Test" account.  Log in under that name and see what the gallery really looks like to members.

Something is wrong someplace, but I couldn't figure it out in the settings  (the "add a picture" button was always there, it just never displayed the contest categories)  (see the previously uploaded screenshots by kali).

Well, I had to use the bulk uploader too, as my image didn't upload the first time with the "add picture" option....or so I thought.....when I did it with the bulk uploader, then I ended up with two copies in the gallery.....that was earlier today. Then, just a few minutes ago, I came back in here, went to check and see if I had any comments on it, and it wasn't showing up as being in the gallery at all! So I uploaded it again, and now, I see one copy in the contest 2D gallery, and another in a different place! I have no understanding of this......do you guys know what's up??

Thanks!
Michelle / daffodil

damn it, i think i have to use my test account to check it, sorry for inconvenience
i will do my best to fix it today!

ok, i have checked it with a test account i made, and it appears that somehow the image upload locking in the root folder
of the gallery contest directory needs to allow image uploading, when i enable the option, it is working, meaning that
the category of the upload directory is set correctly, please check it out and confirm

regards
ck

Works fine now CK. Thanks!  :beer:

well well, then start uploading folks :D

GREAT WORK Mr Kleinhuis!  :beer:

ok, dudes, start producing :D
as a side note: i am now going to develop an android app for the fractalforums.com gallery, my hope was that it could be finished
before the contest ends, to get up to date images right to your smartphone, i can not say when this application will be finished,
but i am working on it, i use my flash-gallery-soap application i already have developed a long time ago.... fyi

ok, now it doesn't work for me. i'm quite shure, a few days ago, it would have worked. did i get something wrong?  :hmh:
(screenshot)

Taurus, that's because you are accessing via the forum, not the gallery: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=52

I'm a bit confused about the 2D restriction. I expect that "single render" means that layered fractals are not allowed, but where is the boundary between 2D and 3D? Are flame / Apophysis fractals considered 2d or 3d?

The boundary depends on the appearance of the fractal, if it *looks* 2D or 3D.

Uhuh. Thanks. I think.  :-\  :dink:

What about layers? I also understand that layering shouldn't be allowed based on what Christian said...
I think this must be clarified now because there's already an image with multiple layers posted...

OK I did some cleanup

I live in NZ so do I have to wait 6 months before I post for the 'Spring' competition :-)

Same here in Argentina, but don´t tell anybody because I already posted :)

ok, i try to explain:

2d: just plain layering techniques of 2d formulas, the mandelbrot is a 2d representation of the complex map, the 2d representation of a mandelbulb could be xy,yz or xy slices layered ;)

3d/composition: simply anything that has self-repeating/fractal or just a broken dimension property, any styles are allowed, 3d, massive 2d photoshop self-drawn compositions, in a slight manner also photographs could be used in this section

and for video: simply anything that has self-repeating/fractal or just a broken dimension property, any styles are allowed meaning composition tools and post processing tools for tracking of pixels or, adding sound syncronisation, it must not be a single rendering of a fractal program, it should be a well syncronized sound fractal video :D

Is it okay if we make refinements or changes and update images before the voting period begins?

No problem.

I made a banner out of this, but here's the Original, in all it's Bigness:

(http://www.sockrateaze.com/stuff/banner2011big.gif)

And while you're reading this - there have been some members uploading more than 3 entries to any one section of the gallery for the contest!

I wrote one a PM, - but hope the rest will see this and either move the ones they want removed, if editing allows that, or contact me, Christian, or any of the admin staff you feel like, and ask us help before some sort of action needs must be taken...

@all members of the southern hemisphere, you are absolutely right, and the naming of the contest makes no sense :D, how could we name it ? 1st quarter contest ? but then we would discourage chinese oder jewish or arabic people ;) difficult problem ... perhaps annual fractal contest would do it ... ???

@sock, i will use that as ad-banner, but one suggestion:
the image is far to high, perhaps you could make it that both texts are in the middle, so that no extra height is needed, and mirrored "fractalforums.com ... " isnt readable anyways...
i am preparing the script right now, i will make a 50:50 display of the ad image

i was opening GIMP right now to create a little banner, but now i use your image ;)

I made a banner one and uploaded it to the rotation:

(http://nocache-nocookies.digitalgott.com/gallery/6/162_10_04_11_9_41_10.gif)
http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=6644

I just stretched it out and shrunk it to the 110 pixels which I still say is too short for a Proper Banner  :stickingouttongue:

Yeah - It could use some work, I just slapped that together with text on 3 planes.  It's easily modified, but the mirroring was timed so it was only backward when the deadline text was showing, and only forward when it wasn't - so they alternate.

The timing is a bit weird, but it looks different on different browsers, like all animated gif files.

As for renaming it - why not Fractal Forums Annual Contest.  We don't have many, and unless we plan on increasing the number of contests per year, we may as well call it that.

yes, annual contest seems to be the right naming ...

better just upload them as attachment here, so that i can use the image as direct link, and set a link to the gallery section

They're too big for attachments  (256k limit)

Here's the url's you can hotlink from these if you want:

http://www.sockrateaze.com/stuff/banner2011big.gif
http://www.sockrateaze.com/stuff/banner2011.gif

So can anyone else who wants to promote the contest!

The small one is 346 kb, not too big for signatures in some forums  O0

I'll change the wording to Annual Contest, and re-render.  Maybe work on the animation a bit so it is beter in the banner aspect ratio...

i could set up additional categories for that ;)
will do that

What is the limit on video duration?

we forgot this year to limit the video size, so, there is no limit ... but more than 10 minutes seems to be overlong....

Good. I think I'm going to replace the "antarean water lilies" still with a video from the same mandelbox and it might get a little long ... :)

All right, I always thought it was a spring contest, so I never got confused...  O0

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Springs_009.jpg/800px-Springs_009.jpg)

Found it   :D

There are 2 galleries for 2 spring 2011 contests. ::)

And since 66.666% of the uploads in the other one are mine , I might make a slight chance to win the dumb-ass award don`t I ? :evil1:  :fiery: :evil1:

What are you talking about?

I only see one main gallery section, with three subsections for entries.

If 2/3 of them in one category are yours, you will have to delete all but 3 entries in each section, or risk not having followed the rules   :siren:

I will search for that "ghost gallery "

After making the uploads I noticed they were in some gallery that had only one image next to mine.

Then I found the real gallery and submitted them there.

Tracked them down & deleted officer.

i moved some images from the main category to 3d/composition ... please check image counts

So I left a message about how my entry never went where it should.  That was yesterday.  Now the message is gone too.  Somebody taking "omnipotent" a little too seriously?  Kinda tired of these pretty constant strange occurances.  It's really not worth it to me, y'know...

where did you send your message to?

@fracmonk:

Your message is here, on another thread: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?topic=7131.msg32129#msg32129

And your image here: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=6995

It seems that you didn't specify the right folder for the image (2D competition), so it remained in the main folder, along with another image from other user who did the same thing.

Sorry but it was your fault, no conspiracies this time, my friend... :)

So please calm down,  excuse yourself, and I'm sure Christian will fix it.

Thanx Kali, but I *tried* to find the the proper avenue for it.  It's far from straightforward, and I'm not good at it to begin with.  But in other times and situations, there have been these reaches in from the 5th dimension, when I've been on this site.  Conspiracy?  (Yawn)  What isn't?

Christian-  My apologies, but on your question I rest my case.  Couldn't the way be less hazardous?  To be honest, I never looked at it as a serious candidate, anyway. The idea was to get more people familiar with a back-to basics approach to M-like sets, by getting it into an area of more general interest.  Best-laid plans of mice and...

If you could use your awesome powers to put it where it belongs, I'd be much obliged to you.  Thanx.

i move the images to the appropriate sections