Title: Quat sum, multiply, divide Post by: DarkBeam on February 09, 2011, 06:34:15 PM Dears I need some help with quaternonions. Mandelbulb3D uses quaternonion math that I do NOT know ... :fiery:
What is the formula for; (a + bi + cj + dk) * (e + fi + gj + hk) = fre() + i * fc1(...) + j * fc2(...) + k * fc3(...) and (a + bi + cj + dk) / (e + fi + gj + hk) = fre() + i * fc1(...) + j * fc2(...) + k * fc3(...) I only am sure that (a + bi + cj + dk) + (e + fi + gj + hk) = (a+e) + (b+f) i + ... (Simple term by term sum) I need float functions of float coefficients to be inserted in an assembly code. :alien: :sad1: I am not able to find formulas by myself. It is useful for some MB3D formulas; the second is the expression of 4D Mobius map (with a = (a1-a2) and stuff). I also need; (a + bi + cj ) * (d + ei + fj ) = fre() + i * fc1(...) + j * fc2(...) and (a + bi + cj ) / (d + ei + fj ) = fre() + i * fc1(...) + j * fc2(...) (Quaternonions without fourth term for simplified code in 3D only) :dink: Title: Re: Quat sum, multiply, divide Post by: DarkBeam on February 09, 2011, 07:05:58 PM I found the answer;
product = a1a2 − b1b2 − c1c2 − d1d2 + (a1b2 + b1a2 + c1d2 − d1c2)i + (a1c2 − b1d2 + c1a2 + d1b2)j + (a1d2 + b1c2 − c1b2 + d1a2)k Is it correct? And; z^(-1) = z / det(z) where det(z) = a*a + b*b + c*c + d*d so composing the two formulas should give the final answer O0 Title: Re: Quat sum, multiply, divide Post by: Fractal Ken on February 09, 2011, 08:28:30 PM Darkbeam,
Your formula for the product (a1 + b1i + c1j + d1k)(a2 + b2i + c2j + d2k) looks right. I believe the reciprocal of a quaternion is its conjugate divided by its squared norm. In other words, if z = a + bi + cj + dk, then z-1 = z* / ||z||2 = (a - bi - cj - dk) / (a2 + b2 + c2 + d2) Here's a picky point about the quotient of two quaternions: It's not uniquely defined. We could interpret p/q as meaning either pq-1 or q-1p, and they're not generally equal due to the noncommutativity of quaternion multiplication. The Wikipedia article on quaternions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion) has loads of good information. Regards, Ken Title: Re: Quat sum, multiply, divide Post by: DarkBeam on February 09, 2011, 08:54:03 PM Okay ty :D |