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Title: BUDDHISM
Post by: Wel lEnTaoed on July 27, 2010, 10:05:28 PM
How much do you feel it is actually influencing this trend (flavor of the month) ;D  of creating buddha type images? 


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: ker2x on July 27, 2010, 11:35:11 PM
i never seen a buddha in the buddhabrot and i'm not looking for it :)
My very own opinion : "i don't care about buddhism" (or any kind of religion, tbh)


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Sockratease on July 27, 2010, 11:45:05 PM
I have actually wondered what would happen if one let a Bhuddabrot render for 49 days under a pipal tree  O0


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Lee Oliver on July 28, 2010, 12:28:59 AM
I have actually wondered what would happen if one let a Bhuddabrot render for 49 days under a pipal tree  O0

It would touch the ground and the earth would shake beneath it as a witness to its accomplishment.


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: aluminumstudios on July 28, 2010, 05:33:13 AM
I don't think Buddhism has anything to do with it.  The buzz seems to have picked up after I posted my "Under the Bodhi Tree" video (http://www.fractalforums.com/movies-showcase-(rate-my-movie)/detailed-buddhabrot-exploration/)  and Infinity Fields images (http://www.fractalforums.com/images-showcase-(rate-my-fractal)/the-infinity-fields-(detailed-buddhabrot-zoom)/ (http://www.fractalforums.com/images-showcase-(rate-my-fractal)/the-infinity-fields-(detailed-buddhabrot-zoom)/))   I think until recently there wasn't much innovation or creativity being applied to this particular fractal.


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Thunderwave on July 28, 2010, 05:56:07 AM
I didn't know buddha was the flavour of the month.


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Wel lEnTaoed on July 29, 2010, 04:39:24 PM
Clearly with you guys it has nothing to do with spirituality.  Then what is the attraction?  I mean some here are despiritely trying to grab claim to fame for re-inventing?  creating the bestest Buddhabrot ever!  Sockratease may have it with the curiosity of rendering time..  BTW aluminumstudios your video was brilliant!  But even previously I have read in threads of egos running amuck with this.  I  am spiritual but abhore organized religions.  Ijn the buddha type images I see introspect.  Connecting with my inner Buddha-vista!  ohhhmm


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: ker2x on July 29, 2010, 05:23:30 PM
I don't think Buddhism has anything to do with it.  The buzz seems to have picked up after I posted my "Under the Bodhi Tree" video (http://www.fractalforums.com/movies-showcase-(rate-my-movie)/detailed-buddhabrot-exploration/)  and Infinity Fields images (http://www.fractalforums.com/images-showcase-(rate-my-fractal)/the-infinity-fields-(detailed-buddhabrot-zoom)/ (http://www.fractalforums.com/images-showcase-(rate-my-fractal)/the-infinity-fields-(detailed-buddhabrot-zoom)/))   I think until recently there wasn't much innovation or creativity being applied to this particular fractal.

i focus on buddhdabrot since months, but the shiny mandelbox software (forgot its name, mandelbulber ?) disctracted my attention.
Your infinity filed reattracted me to the buddhabrot as i had to try (challenge!) to do something better (or at least "as good") than your :)

I created the buddhabrot on gpu thread, posted tons of buddhabrot, and so on :)

Buddhabrot deserve some attention, there is a lot of potential innovation now that we have "fast" rendering with GPU :)


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: ker2x on July 29, 2010, 05:38:51 PM
Clearly with you guys it has nothing to do with spirituality.

nope.

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Then what is the attraction?

technical innovation, challenge, and some eyes pleasure :)

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I mean some here are despiritely trying to grab claim to fame for re-inventing?

don't care about fame. Peer recognition is always nice, of course, but it's not a goal.

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creating the bestest Buddhabrot ever!

can't exist.

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Sockratease may have it with the curiosity of rendering time..

less rendering time mean that we can add more feature, iterate more, zoom deeper
Beeing the fastest at rendering a borring B&W full buddhabrot at low iteration is not a goal in itself.
The faster your code is, the more you can do. And THAT is interesting :)

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But even previously I have read in threads of egos running amuck with this. 

Usually because of misinterpreted post/topic.
I do not think anyone care about being THE master of ... anything.
And even if some people does... well... i don't care.

I'm helped (directly or indirectly) by many people. I publish source code in return so someone else can use my work to do something "better" (whatever the definition of "better" is) than my own work.

i take freely, i give freely.

My 2cts of philosphy.


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Sockratease on July 29, 2010, 05:51:35 PM
Sockratease may have it with the curiosity of rendering time.

Like my namesake, I question everything and believe nothing.

Spirituality is a fun distraction, but not a way of life for me.  Thus I knew enough to make a joke relevant to the Buddha, but I vehemently disagree with any assertions that the Bhuddhabrot has any connection to anything even remotely related to Buddhism!

It's just a fractal.

I hate to say it, but I don't even think the popular image people see in it is as distinct as folks claim.  In fact, I think it's a bit of a stretch - but it's an aesthetically pleasing one  -  so I don't object to it   O0


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Wel lEnTaoed on July 29, 2010, 08:48:29 PM
All well said!  (sorry not gonna go thru the details of individual quotes!)   I do like the triangle (body, mind, spirit)   But then that's the basic mandelbrot.  Also some things  become THE  "flavor of the month" because I for one get ideas from all of you.


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: cKleinhuis on July 29, 2010, 11:15:13 PM
I have actually wondered what would happen if one let a Bhuddabrot render for 49 days under a pipal tree  O0

rofl


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Thunderwave on August 01, 2010, 08:05:26 AM
"flavor of the month" was sarcasm. :)
I love the Digital, fractal Buddhas, they are pretty and intriguing.  Plus I love Indian art of all their Buddhas.  Shiva is my favorite!
(http://www.craftsinindia.com/newcraftsimages/buddha-statue-copper-gold.jpg)


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: teamfresh on August 01, 2010, 08:33:08 AM
I have noticed the rise of the budda, it was strange, after watching the anim "Under the Bodhi Tree" (which I thought was amazing by the way) It felt like I was seeing more of them than usual and then i heard news of a new PS plug in to explore it. I cant afford photoshop so will not get to try it out but my eyes welcome the images and anims of buddabrots when they see them, and they are a perfect contrast to the new raft of 3D crispness that is being generated - Plus they make awesome backdrops........... I have no clue how to render one. er.... does anyone fancy a collab? by supplying me with a buddabrot backdrop for my next 3D anim?  :D free links :)


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: aluminumstudios on August 01, 2010, 09:21:54 AM
I actually live in Japan, and travel around Asia a lot.  I'm not Buddhist, but I really love visiting Buddhist temples and the art found at them.  While not "spiritual" I find the images and idea of Buddha compelling.  Buddhist art varies extremely between Asian countries, but you do find common threads.

In addition to and beyond that however, I like the Buddhabrot style of rendering because it reveals a new dimension to the Mandelbrot set, or whatever other equation you might examine.  While the 3D fractals are nice, with Buddhabrots, I feel like what I am seeing is closer to the underlying math and principles involved because their rendering is in a way an accumulation of numbers.  In my mind the 3D fractals are one step abstracted from the math by the decisions and processes that have to be made in the raytracing to visualize them (not that Buddhabrot's don't involve a lot of arbitrary decisions on the part of the artist.)  Please not I mean no disrespect to the amazing 3D work being done.

... does anyone fancy a collab? by supplying me with a buddabrot backdrop for my next 3D anim?  :D free links :)

A collab sounds interesting, feel free to msg me if you'd like some kind of Buddha backdrop image and we can talk about it :-)


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Lee Oliver on August 01, 2010, 03:19:42 PM
It felt like I was seeing more of them than usual and then i heard news of a new PS plug in to explore it.

I have heard of this plug as well.  It is supposed to be released on the seventh of August.  I have an older version of PS so I don't know if it will work.  I didn't see the system requirements, does it matter what version of PS is used?


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: blob on August 01, 2010, 03:39:43 PM
It felt like I was seeing more of them than usual and then i heard news of a new PS plug in to explore it.

I have heard of this plug as well.  It is supposed to be released on the seventh of August.  I have an older version of PS so I don't know if it will work.  I didn't see the system requirements, does it matter what version of PS is used?

That's the one I guess:

http://www.richardrosenman.com/project/?cid=224

It'll work in any version of Photoshop down to 3 or 4 as it's made with filtermeister, no worries.  O0


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Thunderwave on August 01, 2010, 10:07:45 PM
After having researched Buddhabrot and learning how to program one, I might do it with some help using "Processing", maybe?  Anyways.  It's fascinating!
Melinda Green (http://www.superliminal.com/fractals/bbrot/bbrot.htm) says "Lori's web site contains some reduced examples of her work along with her writings into the mystical connections she's made between the Mandelbrot set and Buddhism. "  http://www.imaging.robarts.ca/~lgardi/ (http://www.imaging.robarts.ca/~lgardi/)

I downloaded the only Buddhabrot maker I could find for fun and it's for windows  :sad1:.  Anyone know a trick or how to make one on a mac?  I'm not the best programmer.  I'll try though.

Seems like you could do a lot of cool things just tracing where the numbers go in the complex plane.  I do this on a spreadsheet but one complex number at a time.
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/150/i/2010/210/c/1/NIXNF005_by_Thunder_Wave.png) (http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/150/i/2010/210/5/a/NIXNF003_by_Thunder_Wave.png)
(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/150/i/2010/210/d/e/NIXNF002_by_Thunder_Wave.png) (http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/150/i/2010/210/e/f/NIXNF001_by_Thunder_Wave.png)


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Sockratease on August 01, 2010, 10:13:08 PM
I downloaded the only Buddhabrot maker I could find for fun and it's for windows  :sad1:.  Anyone know a trick or how to make one on a mac?  I'm not the best programmer.  I'll try though.

If you have a link to the program, I'll give it a try using "Crossover" - an emulator I have on my Mac Laptoy. While it fails on many programs, it has a really good record with fractal generators  (only 3 it wouldn't run that I wanted - about 8 or 10 that it works with).

I also use windows, so I can compare stuffs for missing features if you want...


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Thunderwave on August 01, 2010, 10:17:29 PM
I downloaded the only Buddhabrot maker I could find for fun and it's for windows  :sad1:.  Anyone know a trick or how to make one on a mac?  I'm not the best programmer.  I'll try though.

If you have a link to the program, I'll give it a try using "Crossover" - an emulator I have on my Mac Laptoy. While it fails on many programs, it has a really good record with fractal generators  (only 3 it wouldn't run that I wanted - about 8 or 10 that it works with).

I also use windows, so I can compare stuffs for missing features if you want...

The downloads at the bottom.  I looked for the original one but the links are broken.
http://rr.www.cistron.nl/fract/bdb_maker.html (http://rr.www.cistron.nl/fract/bdb_maker.html)


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Sockratease on August 01, 2010, 10:38:12 PM
I downloaded the only Buddhabrot maker I could find for fun and it's for windows  :sad1:.  Anyone know a trick or how to make one on a mac?  I'm not the best programmer.  I'll try though.

If you have a link to the program, I'll give it a try using "Crossover" - an emulator I have on my Mac Laptoy. While it fails on many programs, it has a really good record with fractal generators  (only 3 it wouldn't run that I wanted - about 8 or 10 that it works with).

I also use windows, so I can compare stuffs for missing features if you want...

The downloads at the bottom.  I looked for the original one but the links are broken.
http://rr.www.cistron.nl/fract/bdb_maker.html (http://rr.www.cistron.nl/fract/bdb_maker.html)


I'm sorry to report that it failed under "Crossover" - but other folks use other emulators...  If you have one, give it a try anyhow.

I'll see if I can find one that works   O0


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Sockratease on August 01, 2010, 10:47:46 PM
I'll see if I can find one that works   O0

Visions of Chaos ( http://softology.com.au/voc.htm ) works under Crossover!

It has a Buddy-Brot feature, but it's not freeware - The trial version has no timeout, but wont export anything - no images, Animations, 3D Models, or Sounds (yup - it does all 4!)  (I may break down and buy this one eventually...).


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Thunderwave on August 02, 2010, 12:34:05 AM
I'll see if I can find one that works   O0

Visions of Chaos ( http://softology.com.au/voc.htm ) works under Crossover!

It has a Buddy-Brot feature, but it's not freeware - The trial version has no timeout, but wont export anything - no images, Animations, 3D Models, or Sounds (yup - it does all 4!)  (I may break down and buy this one eventually...).

Thanks Sockratease!  I'll look into it, especially if it does fractal sounds!  Wait wouldn't that be just noise? lol


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Wel lEnTaoed on August 02, 2010, 02:52:57 PM
blob the Richard Rosemann site is amzing Thnaks for posting it.  The download info should come anytime now. 


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Wel lEnTaoed on August 02, 2010, 03:01:34 PM
"flavor of the month" was sarcasm. :)
I love the Digital, fractal Buddhas, they are pretty and intriguing.  Plus I love Indian art of all their Buddhas.  Shiva is my favorite!
(http://www.craftsinindia.com/newcraftsimages/buddha-statue-copper-gold.jpg)

Sorry if "flavor of the month was percieved as sarcasm.  Not menat to be.. (I actually dislike sarcasm)  Find it to be the lowest form of humor!  :o No more than sockratease comment about rendering time! :embarrass:


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Thunderwave on August 02, 2010, 07:51:57 PM
"flavor of the month" was sarcasm. :)

Sorry if "flavor of the month was percieved as sarcasm.  Not menat to be.. (I actually dislike sarcasm)  Find it to be the lowest form of humor!  :o No more than sockratease comment about rendering time! :embarrass:

No problem, that is not what I meant either. lol  Oh well.  No worries. :embarrass:


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Wel lEnTaoed on August 12, 2010, 09:01:19 PM
I for one am hooked on the flavor of the month.  In regards to "backdrops?" that's kinda what I'm trying to do with my Buddhabrot augmentations.  (in my own primitive way!)


Title: Re: BUDDHISM
Post by: Bent-Winged Angel on September 22, 2010, 04:06:56 PM
I love to research different philosophies.  I am a spiritual, rahter than religious person. I do not "subscribe" to just one.  That to me would be closed minded.  I like thunderwave enjoy eastern art.  I also enjoy seeing & creating these art forms .  Not only for the asthetic value, not as a way of a visualizatrion of my spirituality. Hope this made some sense to someone/anyone?