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Title: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: Schlega on March 21, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
This was inspired by Paolo's conjecture in the triplex algebra thread, combined with my inability to get anything but a black screen for exp(2*ln(z))+c using the triplex definitions.

Define exponentialish functions by

expish(x,y,z) = exp(x)*(cos(y)*f1(x,y,z), sin(y)*f2(x,y,z), f3(x,y,z)),
where f1(x,y,0) = f2(x,y,0) = 1 and f3(x,y,0) = 0.

Similarly, define logarithmish functions by
logish(x,y,z) = (ln(x^2+y^2) + g1(x,y,z), atan2(x+iy)+g2(x,y,z), g3(x,y,z),
where g1(x,y,0) = g2(x,y,0) = g3(x,y,0) = 0.

Here is what you get for expish(2*logish(z))+c for

f1(x,y,z) = f2(x,y,z) = cos(z), f3=sin(z):
g1 = ln(x^2+y^2+z^2) - ln(x^2+y^2), g2=0, g3 = asin(z/r).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ncR-Hbl4Y

I played with some other choices, but youtube doesn't seem to like them at the moment. I'll try again later.


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: kram1032 on March 21, 2010, 09:40:08 PM
pretty much 2D-Mset-ish...
But nice :)


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: Schlega on March 22, 2010, 06:46:47 AM
The power 2 sets seem to be mostly flat for the functions I've tried:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf7_Bahlk-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CugpGf1s2qQ

Here's what the higher powers look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dkrpbiw1xM


And just out of curiosity, I tried swapping sin(z) and cos(z). It doesn't reduce to the mandelbrot set on the xy plane, but it does look more familiar as a power 2 mandelbulb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE4Gvjf0W6s


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: Schlega on March 22, 2010, 09:05:56 AM
This also gives a definition for triplex powers.

z(2,1,0):
(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/schlega1/pow2-1-0.png)

z(2,1,1):
(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/schlega1/pow2-1-1.png)

z(2,0,1):
(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/schlega1/pow2-0-1.png)

z(8,1,0):
(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/schlega1/pow8-1-0.png)

z(8,1,1):
(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/schlega1/pow8-1-1.png)

z(8,0,1):
(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt323/schlega1/pow8-0-1.png)


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: Sockratease on March 22, 2010, 11:25:19 AM
I really enjoyed the "higher powers" animation!

It's like watching a time-lapse video of a flower blooming    :D



Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: kram1032 on March 22, 2010, 03:59:01 PM
very nice animations and still and I have to agree with Sockratease :)


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: Schlega on March 23, 2010, 07:26:31 AM
Thanks! Here's an animation of z(8,m,n)where m and n vary between 0 and 8:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hLZIILeD4


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: kram1032 on March 23, 2010, 03:14:59 PM
that's pretty nice :D


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: Timeroot on March 24, 2010, 02:19:17 AM
Sweeet!  :thumbsup1

After seeing those stills, I was just about to request a video of parameter space exploration of z^(a,b,c), and there it was when I scrolled down! Pre-request gratification is fun!  :)


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: Schlega on June 09, 2010, 01:06:15 AM
Hey, I'm back. Here's what happens when you add a phase shift to the exponential:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-8tTq03io


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: jehovajah on June 09, 2010, 12:03:53 PM
Hi schlega. I am pretty excited by the form you have developed. The animations are a great tool to understanding what you have done. Again it is pretty cool that ideas sparked from this forum are at the cutting edge of visualisation of relativistic forms. I can't explain myself now but i will later when i have explored the notions of polynomial multiple operators. A simpler idea is the taylor expansion operator or the Fourier polynomial transforms .

What you are showing is something fractal woman said: our computing power has arrived at a place where the computaional error is not significant enough to mask the relationships we are exploring; i think she said we are close to plank length!

Good luck and good fortune in your explorations!


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: Schlega on June 09, 2010, 01:43:53 PM
Thanks, jehovajah. I must admit I don't know what relativistic forms are, but I like the sound of it.

Good luck in your own exploration as well!


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: KRAFTWERK on June 10, 2010, 09:03:02 AM
Very nice animations Schlega! Some seem to be totally new versions, but these two looks exactly like our familliar Positive z:

(http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2081.0;attach=1023;image)

 and cosine mandelbulbs:
(http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2081.0;attach=2087;image)


Wicked...  O0


Title: Re: Exponentialish extensions of the mandelbrot set.
Post by: kram1032 on June 10, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
very interesting but when thinking about how the exponential is related to angular functions, it's somehow expected. :)