Title: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: Chillheimer on March 16, 2016, 11:02:29 AM I would like to visualize a 3d bifurcation like this:
(http://www.mathematicaguidebooks.org/gallery/numerics/images/index_3.gif) But looking awesome. Any tips how to achieve this in Mandelbulb3d? (or maybe even parameters I could play with?) Thx for any help.. Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: quaz0r on March 16, 2016, 06:25:38 PM Quote ... but looking awesome ;D ;D Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: msltoe on March 17, 2016, 03:59:54 AM Do you have the coordinates of the dots? If so, you can convert to a scene format and then use any number of 3-D renderers.
Mandelbulb3D (I think) is primarily an escape time fractal program, but bifurcations like the ones you presented are a different type of fractal. If you can find the formula that these things use, one of us should be able to whip up a program to generate a scene file (list of spheres, e.g) that can then be rendered with a standard raytracing program. Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: Chillheimer on March 18, 2016, 05:46:51 PM I guess that would be the formula then:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifurcation_diagram#Logistic_map Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: hobold on March 18, 2016, 05:50:09 PM This can be done within PoV-Ray ( http://www.povray.org ).
It's not an appropriate tool, and the example below is probably not the best way, but it might be a start. Code: #version 3.7; Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: hgjf2 on March 19, 2016, 07:43:05 AM It can make so 3D biffurcation and for 2d classic Mandelbrot if take whole complex space for the other line than real number set.
Example: for Mandelbrot set fc(z)=z^2+c, taking c=0,1+ik one examplu, and for each Julia set f=z^2+0,1+ik rendering the point of attraction whick isn't real number but is complex number , then the bifurcation with one dimensional curves need 3 dimensions (k axis, real numbers for this Julia set axis and imaginary numbers for this Julia set axis). I posted allready one example for this 3D biffurcation on DEVIANTART, an image named "3D attraction" on HGJF-RADIOLARIA.DEVIANTART.COM . This my images can be watched stereographic in 3D in crosseyed mode. Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: Chillheimer on March 19, 2016, 03:17:31 PM hobold, this is abolutely out of the reach of my abilities.. ;)
@hgjf2: I can't find that picture on your deviantart.. mind to link directly? I found some nice amazing-box parameters.. they are not exactly the bifurcation I was aiming for, but they look very cool, will post here Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: hobold on March 19, 2016, 07:09:51 PM Surprisingly rich structures in there: large strands, intertwined braids, balconies ...
(http://vectorizer.org/mandelbrot/tree01.jpg) Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: Chillheimer on March 19, 2016, 07:23:44 PM fascinating! :)
Title: Re: 3d Bifurcation in Mandelbulb3d? Post by: hobold on March 22, 2016, 11:12:30 AM Animation of the above picture: http://vectorizer.org/mandelbrot/mandeltree01.mp4 I feel a title for this one coming to me ... ah yes: "Turning the Cables". :) |