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Title: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: brane on October 14, 2014, 01:37:38 AM
Hi everyone! 

I recently discovered 3D fractals on youtube and they really caught my fascination.  See, my entire life I've had audio to visual synesthesia; when I hear sounds, I automatically see colored, textured objects that dynamically change with the sound. I think there is a great similarity between the shapes I see in my synesthesia and fractals, and so I want to try to create fractals similar to what I see when I hear music.

This video is the closest I have found so far, although still quite a bit off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hbQKuR6vEI


Are there any fractal tutorials for beginners or good points to start learning and creating?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: cKleinhuis on October 14, 2014, 11:59:15 AM
the stuff you posted is by user subblue, check out is vimeo channel, for similar stuff
http://vimeo.com/search?q=subblue

what do you mean by tutorials !? do you want a general "fractal" tutorial or a particular program ?!


Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: cKleinhuis on October 14, 2014, 12:01:11 PM
more or less i talk about the underlyings of fractal theory in my dedicated channel, but it might be more interesting for you if you went your first steps in doing fractal images ;)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCej4aqqeusL5iUnKHjmKjLQ


Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: brane on October 14, 2014, 10:24:32 PM
Thank you for the info!  Awesome channel you've got there  ;D

I guess what I mean by tutorials is something that would teach me how to operate some fractal software, like Mandelbulb 3D.  Actually, what software would you recommend?


Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: cKleinhuis on October 14, 2014, 11:52:53 PM
i personally recommend ultrafractal for 2d stuff, and mandelbulb3d for 3d stuff, mandelbulber2 is currently under heavy development and also capable of 3d rendering, you find tutorials for mb3d and mandelbulber and ultrafractal easily on the web, i do not have actual links but perhaps other users might help out here


Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: mclarekin on October 16, 2014, 09:11:41 AM
@ Brane

Mandelbulb3D there are several good video tutorials that can be found at Deviant Art, M3D has plenty of formulas  and some other cool features like DEcombinate

MandelbulberV2 ( using QuickTime interface) is recently released but there is still  a lot to be done before it encompasses all of the features of the previous version

MandelbulberV1.21 has the ability to use openCL which can really speed rendering up, and has the ability for you to write your own formulas. The source code is readable for those who wish to understand.

@Christian
You will not find tutorials for mandelbulber easily on the web. There is very little in the way of tutorials for Mandelbulber other than the old user manuals  and example scripts. I guess as I use mandelbulber v1.21 I should write some tutorials, but exploring infinity is taking longer then I expected ;D


Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: cKleinhuis on October 16, 2014, 09:55:57 AM
@Christian
You will not find tutorials for mandelbulber easily on the web. There is very little in the way of tutorials for Mandelbulber other than the old user manuals  and example scripts. I guess as I use mandelbulber v1.21 I should write some tutorials, but exploring infinity is taking longer then I expected ;D

haha, i am sorry for that, perhaps you can make a break when you have explored halve of infinity and write some stuff together ;)
i would vote for writing a mandelbulber v2.1 tutorial, since it will soon completely replace the v1 mandelbulber


Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: brane on October 17, 2014, 05:41:39 AM
Mandelbulb3D there are several good video tutorials that can be found at Deviant Art, M3D has plenty of formulas  and some other cool features like DEcombinate

MandelbulberV2 ( using QuickTime interface) is recently released but there is still  a lot to be done before it encompasses all of the features of the previous version

MandelbulberV1.21 has the ability to use openCL which can really speed rendering up, and has the ability for you to write your own formulas. The source code is readable for those who wish to understand.

Awesome, thanks! I've been getting accustomed to Mandelbulb3D, and it's been easy to get used to and really cool so far.  I've gotten as far as mixing several formulas together and seeing great results.

Speaking about formulas, could you elaborate a little on how Mandelbulber V1.21 allows you to write your own formulas?  How are they constructed? I know the classic f(z)=z^2+c, but is there somewhere I could find out more about how fractal formulas are constructed? 


Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: mclarekin on October 17, 2014, 08:48:23 AM


This is a link to the Mandelbulber User Manual section on formulas

https://sites.google.com/site/mandelbulber/user-manual#TOC-Fractal-parameters---Formula

Responding to your post yesterday made be check out the old manual, and  WOW I understand a lot more now than I did a year ago.

I still know very little about it all compared to a lot of the forums members you can programme and remember their maths.

 Formulas involve iterating a function with maybe folding, scaling,  translating, rotations (things that can be done for INFINITY.) For instances you can  fold a plane in half, then half again, then half again, onwards towards INFINITY (there that keyword again, INFINITY).

Watch Chaostube video tutorials found in this forum, they sure  helped me.The Mandelbox chaostube tutorial demonstrates all these things much better than I can. When you start combining different formulas (Hybrids) in various iteration ratios the amount of possible combinations becomes incredible.

 In Mandelbulber 1.21 you can write in openCL these equations and set parameters for the actions.

But really, you don't need to write formulas as the combinations of the existing M3D formulas with all the parameter variables could keep you entertained for many lifetimes



Title: Re: Fractals and Synesthesia
Post by: Mahmut on December 13, 2014, 01:15:57 PM
hello my friend, can you listen to this: https://soundcloud.com/dggrdsh/sexy-morse-thue (https://soundcloud.com/dggrdsh/sexy-morse-thue) and tell me the synaisthetic effect?
Please let me use you as a fractal-meter :P I imagine it's something bubbly.
I have a post about it here: http://www.fractalforums.com/fractal-music/morse-theu-music-track-explained/msg79002/ (http://www.fractalforums.com/fractal-music/morse-theu-music-track-explained/msg79002/)