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Title: background sphere
Post by: metalion on February 01, 2014, 05:11:52 AM
I learned how to make a panoramic sky so I could project it as a background sphere, but when I apply it it loses clarity
get all blurry and big looking. How can I get it to look clear with a nice resolution? Im guessing its getting stretched out.


Title: Re: background sphere
Post by: metalion on February 02, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
? is this just a problem that can't be fixed? Ive seen some videos that had spectacular backgrounds so, Im just wondering if that was done with after effects or something.


Title: Re: background sphere
Post by: Madman on February 03, 2014, 08:50:33 PM
Can you post the parameters and attach a small size example of your background to your post?


Title: Re: background sphere
Post by: metalion on February 04, 2014, 04:00:02 AM
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I cant get the photo to upload, due to 256K limit, kinda small how are people uploading pictures to this forum?
if you email me I could send it to you that way.


Title: Re: background sphere
Post by: metalion on February 04, 2014, 04:12:11 AM
Here I sized it down and converted it to jpg, original size I had it at was 2000X1000 png file.
Dont know if this helps.
Thanks.
TT


Title: Re: background sphere
Post by: metalion on February 04, 2014, 04:14:12 AM
This is what im seeing when its rendered in the scene.


Title: Re: background sphere
Post by: Madman on February 06, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
Hmm, seem to me, your background is not distorted at all. You've got that technique pretty well under control (better than me ;D). But if your trying to span a 2k X 1k picture over a sphere and only look at a very small part of that sphere at a 1280 X 768 resolution, you will never get a detailed background. You may want to think about a background file size of 20k X 10k (or if that's not achievable, a resolution as high as possible) and rerender. Furthermore, your parameters show that you have added some fog in the lighting tab. If you want a crisp background, you should reduce that to 0.


Title: Re: background sphere
Post by: metalion on February 07, 2014, 04:48:48 AM
Thanks I think I got it figured out now.learned a few new tricks this week.
 :D


Title: Re: background sphere
Post by: JohnVV on February 09, 2014, 07:35:40 AM
i do a lot of map work ( make planet and moon maps of the solar system) and mapping to a sphere is different than to a cylinder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection#Cylindrical
the poles are stretched
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_map_projections
this is the MOST common in 3d rendering ( besides using a CubeMap)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equirectangular_projection


for a sphere a "Simple Cylindrical " map projection is needed

OR
use a "cube map" ( AKA "sky box")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cube_mapping



most of the time there is no real good way to remap a photo ( like a panorama ) to a SPHERE .To a cylinder -- YES but a sphere has different geometry .

there are some programs like
"Mathews Map Projection"( MMPS)
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~arcus/mmps/

or
likely the best way is to use "The Gimp" and use the "to polar" distort then using the HEAL tool to "FIX" it at the poles.