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Title: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: MatzeR on October 21, 2013, 10:39:19 PM
Just my first animation-clip with Mandelbulb3D. With a little post-prod. in AE.
Main goal was to get a smooth and dramatic camera ride.

http://vimeo.com/74068780


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: cKleinhuis on October 21, 2013, 10:46:47 PM
not bad, nice object and camera path, too bad its without music

btw, i corrected the embed code, you just need to post a link to your video, it is then automatically replaced by the embed code!


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: MatzeR on October 21, 2013, 10:51:48 PM
Thanx - I was just searching the forum posts for a hint to the correct embedding method ;-)



Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: mclarekin on October 22, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
not bad, nice object and camera path, too bad its without music (I'm not always original with my comments) :) :) :)


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: eiffie on October 22, 2013, 04:19:36 PM
Very nice object! Too bad its without music :( Nice camera path too. Not bad.

(That's how you do it mclarekin.)


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: Nahee_Enterprises on October 24, 2013, 01:47:19 AM
    Just my first animation-clip with Mandelbulb3D. With a little post-prod. in AE.
    Main goal was to get a smooth and dramatic camera ride.
            http: //vimeo.com/74068780

After just listening to Kalles Fraktaler's "Many Colors" video, it was a relief to not have any music, though something soothing would have been great.    :D

And since the others never really stated that this was a good video, they only stated it was "not bad", let me say that I liked it.  Oh, and BTW, it was a nice camera path.
 


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: MatzeR on October 24, 2013, 10:37:08 PM
Why I like fractals more than topic comments: There is more variation in it! ha ha ah
 :hurt:
OK really thanks for your comments.

So, one good thing about muzic.... O0
To a self made animation I would prefer to put a self made music to it. But than it probably would never get finished and uploaded.
What is your opinion, putting a foreign music -even without asking the artist- to your animations? My feeling is, that than the clip is not 100% my own product anymore. I'm sure you have all some music at home. So put s.th. on your ears, that you like and watch the video. Ore something you don't like, or just listen to some music and don't watch the clip  :-*


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: Dinkydau on October 25, 2013, 01:50:08 AM
I always use music from artists for my videos. I think it's a good thing to do. The artistic value of the video can be increased by choosing suitable music. Music and video combined are one product. It's up to the video artist to select the right music for the intended atmosphere or theme, and optimize the video for that particular music.

Indeed it's not all your own work if you work like that, but you've definitely worked on finetuning the video for the chosen music. There are many DJs who earn money by playing other artists' music in such a way that the show is one whole new piece of art. I think that's basically what video artists can do as well, combine your own video with music in such a way that it becomes one whole new piece of art.


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: Nahee_Enterprises on October 25, 2013, 03:10:55 AM
   So, one good thing about muzic....  O0
    To a self made animation I would prefer to put a self made music to it.   But than it probably would
    never get finished and uploaded.
    What is your opinion, putting a foreign music -even without asking the artist- to your animations?
    My feeling is, that than the clip is not 100% my own product anymore.   I'm sure you have all some
    music at home.   So put s.th. on your ears, that you like and watch the video.   Ore something you
    don't like, or just listen to some music and don't watch the clip  :-*

Yes, creating your own music to add as the soundtrack for a video (which one has also created), would always be a good solution.   But not everybody can be an adequate composer.    :sad1:
I personally prefer having the music match the "action" going on within the video, just as they do in major motion pictures.   And if I can find a good classical piece, then that is even better!!!    :D
 


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: mclarekin on October 25, 2013, 08:10:35 AM
In my very very most humble and somewhat meek opinion. Posting a video with someone elses music should be banned, and anyone caught doing so should be labeled "sadly half-an-artist", and tarred and feathered, drawn and quarternioned, then sent to the fractal mines for years and years of bone breaking, energy sapping, heavy manual iterations. And if  by bad luck your username just happens to be ytalinflusa, THEN you have to do ALL the iterations backwards. Hey, this is just one guys opinion.  :)
Feed back not welcome. :)


Seriously, music helps me enjoy the viewing, and its great when it fits the flow of the animation. Get it how ever you can, after careful consideration of the risks involved. :police:

Hint for those  who wish to stop being labeled "half-an-artist", a tempo of 120 bpm (2 beats per sec)  sure makes matching keyframes easy for any mathmatically disadvantaged beginner.


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: DarkBeam on October 25, 2013, 11:16:01 AM
 :D great!!! Congrats


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: eiffie on October 25, 2013, 08:03:37 PM
lol @ mclarekin I think its great to support musical artists who make their work CC but if you can make the music yourself that's even better! Better still is if its fractal music! - and yes I also steal songs I like from recording companies who understand that the free publicity of music sharing is worth losing a few sales over. I was going to link examples of each in my videos but the links all expand and even I couldn't stomach the self promotion. :)


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: Kalles Fraktaler on October 29, 2013, 09:49:58 PM
Interesting discussion. Harsh render requires harsh music, easy render can have easy music. That's how I choose. And since all the other of you choose synthesized blip-blop we all feel better with a metal break, right? :)


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: Nahee_Enterprises on October 30, 2013, 06:21:56 AM
    Interesting discussion.   Harsh render requires harsh music, easy render can have easy music.
    That's how I choose.   And since all the other of you choose synthesized blip-blop we all feel
    better with a metal break, right?  :)

I do not mind listening to Metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music) music.   Have enjoyed it (and many of its subgenres) since it was first developed many decades ago (probably long before several people in this forum were even born).   :D

The key here is "music", even if it may be extreme and/or harsh music such as thrash metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrash_metal), death metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_metal) and black metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_metal).    But when it turns to just a bunch of chaotic sounds, with no real noticeable melody or tempo, that is another matter.

And how does that type of noise correlate with the videos being presented??   The animations here are structured and planned out, they move along in predetermined fashion.   They usually flow along without a bunch of haphazardly introduced images thrown in.   Your videos are not so chaotic as to be related to just plain noise, they are fairly good in most situations.   :dink:
 


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: MatzeR on November 04, 2013, 07:26:06 PM
In my opinion, music is all about feelings, emotions, mood.
I'm an engineer for media and information and I did some studies in the past about this matter. In movies the music makes up more than 50% of your impression of the pictures. Think of a horror movie and change the scary music to something else - maybe heavy matal. Your perception would completely change. The big power of music is, that it takes control of your subconsciousness - you mostly remember the pictures of a movie, but barely the music.
There are also lots of low-level skilled 3D animation clips out there with a monumental music in the background from lord of the rings or star wars. And the viewer - or even the author - thinks, wow somehow I feel touched by that clip.

No doubt, that a good synthesis of music and picture is much more satisfying than a silent movie. But because I wanted a clean feedback to my fractal-animation, I decided no to manipulate the audience with an acoustic work of s.o. else.

But when adding music would assist to my intention for another movie (e.g to transport a mood), I would also not hesitate to do so.

Got it?  :dink:


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: eiffie on November 05, 2013, 06:39:58 PM
Yep got it. We liked the object and camera work. Now we want to be entertained - we want our emotions subconsciously manipulated. People be stupid that way. Can't wait for the next one WITH monumental music. I'm excited thinking about it! :)


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: schizo on November 24, 2013, 09:20:38 PM
Oh wow. Really cool for the first try! Great colors, lights and DOF. Love it.


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: Chillheimer on November 25, 2013, 01:16:43 AM
In my opinion, music is all about feelings, emotions, mood.
I'm an engineer for media and information and I did some studies in the past about this matter. In movies the music makes up more than 50% of your impression of the pictures.
As musician it's so great and very refreshing to hear that from the "other", visual side... :)

Although I also "got it" ;) I'd like to offer to produce music for that short film.. or others.. just for the fun of doing it.

here's an examples that I did some time ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtPFlhkUYA


Title: Re: "Entering Dimension F" - A Tribute to PseudoXDB
Post by: MatzeR on November 26, 2013, 08:01:23 PM
Hello Chillheimer,
you can't imagine how glad I am to read your offer!!!
I've just started with a concept for a new project with a good friend of mine (I am 3d specialist an he owns a company for image films). The only piece missing is a soundtrack with the permission of the sound composer. We both like progressive psy music - not the vullon stuff but exactly the smooth grooves like the sound in the fractal video you've linked here. I' ll write you more details to your chillheimer.de Email ... in German  :D