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I am happy to announce the first official history issue of the chaosTV channel, with the now fourth character
the series is finally set up, enjoy "the pope of fractals and the priest of chaos"

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EDIT: EXCHANGED VIDEO TO A VARIANT WITHOUT CLERICAL NAME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmZ3vV418yA

my 2c:

1. Again it's not really a good look for Fractal Forums, or for you :-X Really, the fractal pope? Gonna help some other fractalists molest children and deny women contraception?  :o

2. I'm pretty sure there was a lot of FF history before 2008, before it became an image blog and while there was a lot of fractal programming collaboration ...

edit: forgot point 3: Isn't it kinda unsafe to be lighting fireworks indoors?  :o

ehr, thank you for commenting ?

to 1
the series is about "made up characters" their main purpose is to give a setting to build the issues on, this is experimental, but exactly how it was planned years ago :(

to 2
... more stories will be told, anything that exceeds 1 minute long youtube videos are considered as "too long" so, keep it short and simple....

3. ...

ah, i got it, you mean the catholic pope problematic nowadays, pope is a catholic word then ?! hmm, be assured, no catholic influences in here!
arrh, so what shall i do about it ?! cut it out !? argh, it was meant as clerical head of something, i am unsure if i did something bad there, what do others think about it ?!

sounds like an eulogy on the good old days... you can't prevent the world from turning - in good and in bad.

for the rest I share lyciums criticism. You should more focus on fluent and correct speech instead of creating ambiguous messages or characters. Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Atheists or even Christs will be rather disapointed of the show.

ok ok, got it, i removed the naming parts from the videos, they will be available tomorrow evening, any comments about the content ?!?!?!? ??? :(

I like it, but I'm a "late" member, joining after the big bang of 3d fractals. Maybe mentioning the amazing box as part of that revolution would be good. The bulb was the first, ok, but its meaning for artistic use of 3d fractals is rather small today. When you look at hybrid generations today, most of them base on the amazing box...

hey, the title of the issue was not "complete history of everything" it was just short history of the forums, this part of the show is dedicated for kinda story telling, and lycium wouldnt you agree that this story is somehow neat and shall be told ?! the mandelbulb is simply the reason we became popular here, i am unsure what kind of stories i can tell in the future, i was more thinking of "lorenz weather prediction" "the hunt for triplex number systems and the fail with the quaternions" or stay internal in the forums, but pretty unsure if/when suggestions welcome though ....

I like the silly characters!   :alien:  :clown: :elvis: :gum: :ugly:

Maybe try a generic Mathemagician instead of anything recognizable which may be controversial?

thank you ;) what a relief, at least one positive response...., the "naming parts" are beeing cutted out, the latin language
in the beginning stays there, it meaning is "deep clear insight, new worlds"

IMO most folks are making a mistake in not using the Mandelbulb/Juliabulb type formulas more extensively - hardly any of those often used involving complex numbers for 2D have been converted to triplex yet - and here I'm not including awkward ones that use higher functions ;)

 


ah, sorry, did not get this ;) what about the speaking, you said concentrate on the speaking, but i am unsure if that means speaking was better/worse than before ... :)
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@ cK I think you edited taurus66's post instead of replying, whoops...

indeed, whoopsie dasies, sorry for that, i think i need some days off, and take a good swimming ....

ok, repeating the part for David, 'cause it's gone:
You're probably right David, especially when I look at Tahyons images for example, I also think the bulb deserves more attention...

@Christian
no offense Christian - I doubt, that I would make it better, but your talk sometimes sounds, as if you are stitching the words together, while you're talking. That's not so severe, but a little pitty, because I don't think, people outside the forums can imagine the amount of serious innovation coming from here, while listening to you, stumbeling through the text. I hope you're not angry with me, for that open statement... :dink:
The "I like it" was for the story, because it's a real good example for synergetic collaboration...

i am open for the criticism, no problem with that

that i have issues with talking is something that i am actually training by this, in the first issues i was talking like realtime, wich had problems with the many "aaahh eeh " and stuff, reading stuff is basically the way to go, and in this special case it was basically a command to "tone" every single word differently, like a story, i am not so content with the outcome for sure, so i might just end this whole experiment as a complete fail, i dont think the spanish people will get something out of it anyways ... should take some "talking" courses train my voice, or better just get the university shit done and get rid of time consuming no money bringing things that i really love to do but since they dont pay it makes no sense after all ....

it is most likely that we modifiy the set up of the show to become a "real" tvshow with reports, and not talking all the time, more like moderated clips that are played in to increase information transport, and split up the shows in more easy controllable recordings, until now all the session have been recorded in one long session, this will certainly change ... if continued ...

I surely didn't want to discourage you continuing the show. As long as you are willing to improve the format and / or your performance, I see no reason to stop it. So far no master has fallen from the sky!
I like the idea of a moderated clip-show. Keep up developing new ideas for the show, the fractal thing still needs publicity! ;D

Have to say something...
I like the video because I know you, Chris... I mean, I know you from here, I know who you are, and what you are doing to maintain this place I like so much.
So it's good to see you talking about the history of this forum, and in the other videos talking about what's happening here, the news and so on.
But I don't think someone outside here could get really interested in fractals, and this forum in particular, by watching a video of you talking and talking (even if your speech gets better). IMHO, the best way to publicy the forums and fractals in general, is using -guess what- ... fractals.

Even when you include some fractal overlays like in this one, or short clips or slideshows of images, I think it's not enough.

I personally like the style of a voice-over character, with visuals that support the ideas discussed (like minutephysics or vihart videos on youtube).
And then showing fractals in a more extensive and detailed way, with some simple sketches when you want to aboard some math details like you did in the complex multiplication video, but focusing more on the drawing, seeing the character all the time could get boring fast.

I'm not saying you shouldn't appear in the videos, but with only some cameos I think it could make the video more interesting, as it will be focusing on the stuff and not always on the character.

That's all, hope you got what I tried to say.

TO LYCIUM: There are some people still discussing and collaborating on programming and math stuff, please examine the forum posts a little more, unless you think we are not good enough for you to be considered. And most of the images posted are quite valuable, this is a FRACTAL forums, why you are complaining about having images posted? If we only have formulas and code it could be a bit boring for some people who only enjoys the artistic side of fractaling. There is a place here for everyone.

yay, this will be the way to go, i think i am going to introduce the mandelbrot set and the most basic principles as well in the show, my plan is to present all fundamentals to understand why the mandelbulb is not perfect yet, next show will be most certainly about explaining the fractal dimension problem with nice clips

@kali what about the "spanish" i speak ?! does it makes sense continuing ?! i think when speaking shorter sentences in the clips it will become far more better understandable for spanish speakers ...

TO KALI: It's just an observation about the relative posting of bulb images and programming talk. Nobody needs to get upset by this, I just point out why this is no longer such an interesting place for me, as a programmer, as it used to be (I find deviantArt's #Aposhack channel is way better for this these days). "Not good enough for you" whaaaaat, where did that come from...

I just found your "observation" a bit despective... but you are right, I shouldn't get upset... I was having a bad day, sorry.

Peace  :music:

Oh, I forgot... @CK: I know you are doing your best, but I have to say that your spanish sounds real weird... However I personally find it funny and not annoying at all...  ;D 
Also I think it's quite understandable (<- does this word even exist? :D), even when there are some noticeable mistakes with the pronunciation.

Thanks for taking my advice, and don't let the negative feedback discourage you from continuing the show, use them as a motivation for improving it instead, and keep working, I know you can do it better and even more enjoyable.

Just to come to Kali's defense. To claim fforums became an image blog is rather a valuation, than an observation.
But no objection from me - I know it no other... :dink:

Well, I'm going by the "recent posts (http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=recent)" view, which I always used to keep track of FF. One day, it stopped being mainly text, and became mainly images; this is rather like an image blog / tumblr page, right? I don't know how this term is so sensitive here, but that's what most people call it...

Again, it's not even a negative thing; for example last night I found this blog, which is just brilliant I think (because of the technical information, not just images!): http://fluffyeahfluiddynamics.tumblr.com/

Yes, this is an observation - I made the same observation, even the two years I'm here.
But my interpretation (or valuation) of that fact is, that text discussions were getting fewer. I can understand that. The hurdle to the third dimension is taken, huge innovations are not very likely at the moment. It's the time of smaller steps now. Maybe not so attractive for some programmers?!

Anyhow, even if fractalforums became a fractal image blog, it's the best one I know (my preference is the visual attraction)

Ehrm ok, you hijacked the thread

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We took certain actions to not let the images overwhelm other stuff

i love the images anyways sometimes they are just awesome sometimes they are mediocre but many mediocre got exactly the help they needed to understand how to use the programs we have a real friendly atmosphere here

some daily images like the safari pics are more than special and it is an honor to have them here

the mathematical/programming stuff isby far not underrepresented, in general this is not a coders only board on a weekly base new scripts and formulas are still discussed at very high levels we have ultrafractal codes assembler discussion and weekly gpu skripting, tell me whatare you missing? Just lurking and upset people?.

and even non graphic or coding stuff is discussed occasionaly

the widespread is what makes it what it is

and lycium i thought you where like shouting and really angry, especially from you i thwas expecting at least a not only horribly negative comment regarding i mentioned your precious rendering that you point out by yourself from time to time

I took it really personal and somehow it really depressed me, but i am fine now and future plans are just beeing prepared. . . .

That was the day when gallery images became automatically part of the recent posts view.
I also think it strange that you are flicking through recent forum discussions and you have to scroll past lots of gallery images. You can access these images from the gallery anyway, so I also don't see why they should be duplicated in the discussion posts.

p.s. Loved the video cK, don't change a thing  O0

(EN) Yes the CHAOS TV have more rating.
Through would be fine that the movies broadcasting from "Chaos TV" topic to be released on DISCOVERY CHANNEL or DISCOVERY SCIENCE.
I assert that CHAOS TV will could give more rating the chanel DISCOVERY SCIENCE at TV.
 :peacock: :spork:

(RO) Ma mir ca emisiunea CHAOS TV nu a ajuns pe DISCOVERY SCIENCE ca ar aduce mai multe ratinguri acelui post de televiziune