Title: \mathbf not working properly in LaTeX code.
Post by: Pauldelbrot on January 12, 2013, 12:32:08 AM
It seems that \mathbf is not working properly in LaTeX code here, for some reason. It seems to result in bold italic instead of bold upright. Test:
Weirdly, whereas every piece of LaTeX documentation out there indicates that wrapping in \fontshape{n}\selectfont ... \fontshape{i}\selectfont should function as a workaround, the installation here apparently can not even parse either of those commands, which I thought were basic components of LaTeX that couldn't fail to exist no matter what add-on packages were or were not installed.
For what it's worth, \mathrm works (no italic) but, of course, is not bold. :)
(How \mathrm and \mathit (and \mathbb, even) are able to work properly when two of the lower-level commands used to implement them, \fontshape and \selectfont, don't work, eludes me however. Doesn't seem possible. With those not working, it's a wonder it's only \mathbf that seems to be acting up.)
Weirdly, whereas every piece of LaTeX documentation out there indicates that wrapping in \fontshape{n}\selectfont ... \fontshape{i}\selectfont should function as a workaround, the installation here apparently can not even parse either of those commands, which I thought were basic components of LaTeX that couldn't fail to exist no matter what add-on packages were or were not installed.
For what it's worth, \mathrm works (no italic) but, of course, is not bold. :)
(How \mathrm and \mathit (and \mathbb, even) are able to work properly when two of the lower-level commands used to implement them, \fontshape and \selectfont, don't work, eludes me however. Doesn't seem possible. With those not working, it's a wonder it's only \mathbf that seems to be acting up.)
Title: Re: \mathbf not working properly in LaTeX code.
Post by: cKleinhuis on January 12, 2013, 12:47:25 AM
its a pitty, i am happy that the latex parser is working, its just a plain perl skript that is doing the job, the course of argumentation might be intuitive, but i am the wrong person to hold for it, perhaps ask the guys at "mimetex" :D
It seems that \mathbf is not working properly in LaTeX code here, for some reason. It seems to result in bold italic instead of bold upright. Test:
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Weirdly, whereas every piece of LaTeX documentation out there indicates that wrapping in \fontshape{n}\selectfont ... \fontshape{i}\selectfont should function as a workaround, the installation here apparently can not even parse either of those commands, which I thought were basic components of LaTeX that couldn't fail to exist no matter what add-on packages were or were not installed.
For what it's worth, \mathrm works (no italic) but, of course, is not bold. :)
(How \mathrm and \mathit (and \mathbb, even) are able to work properly when two of the lower-level commands used to implement them, \fontshape and \selectfont, don't work, eludes me however. Doesn't seem possible. With those not working, it's a wonder it's only \mathbf that seems to be acting up.)
<Quoted Image Removed>
Weirdly, whereas every piece of LaTeX documentation out there indicates that wrapping in \fontshape{n}\selectfont ... \fontshape{i}\selectfont should function as a workaround, the installation here apparently can not even parse either of those commands, which I thought were basic components of LaTeX that couldn't fail to exist no matter what add-on packages were or were not installed.
For what it's worth, \mathrm works (no italic) but, of course, is not bold. :)
(How \mathrm and \mathit (and \mathbb, even) are able to work properly when two of the lower-level commands used to implement them, \fontshape and \selectfont, don't work, eludes me however. Doesn't seem possible. With those not working, it's a wonder it's only \mathbf that seems to be acting up.)
Title: Re: \mathbf not working properly in LaTeX code.
Post by: kram1032 on January 12, 2013, 11:45:41 AM
On that topic, \iff doesn't seem to work either...
should result in 
$\iff$
I wonder, could we get Mathjax (http://www.mathjax.org/)instead?
It renders much nicer text, has a more complete syntax and to use it you just type $between dollar symbols$ or, for longer passages
$$
between double dollar symbols
like demonstrated here
$$
It's also what StackExchange (https://stackexchange.com/) is using for those of their subsites that actually are likely to involve math (like math, physics, chemistry...).
It apparently would be as simple as calling the following script which I already use for some places to get access to MathJax without technically having it supported.
(It's basically the adress of a link in my favorites bar and when I click it, all between two $s will be treated like it should be LaTex - the format of it obviously sucks, because it's a one-liner as put into the adress bar)
In case you're wondering: I'm using that in StackExchange chatrooms where MathJax doesn't automatically work, because of slowdowns. A chat has to be very responsive after all. That's also where I found the script in the first place.
EDIT: After clicking on said MathJax converter link, I see my post as follows (at least previously to this very edit)
(http://puu.sh/1MJOB)
Note that the $\iff$ above is converted and also the example text below, which of corse is pretty useless, but an example none the less.
$\iff$
I wonder, could we get Mathjax (http://www.mathjax.org/)instead?
It renders much nicer text, has a more complete syntax and to use it you just type $between dollar symbols$ or, for longer passages
$$
between double dollar symbols
like demonstrated here
$$
It's also what StackExchange (https://stackexchange.com/) is using for those of their subsites that actually are likely to involve math (like math, physics, chemistry...).
It apparently would be as simple as calling the following script which I already use for some places to get access to MathJax without technically having it supported.
(It's basically the adress of a link in my favorites bar and when I click it, all between two $s will be treated like it should be LaTex - the format of it obviously sucks, because it's a one-liner as put into the adress bar)
Code:
javascript:(function(){if(window.MathJax===undefined){var%20script=document.createElement("script");script.type="text/javascript";script.src="https://d3eoax9i5htok0.cloudfront.net/mathjax/latest/MathJax.js?config=TeX-AMS_HTML";var%20config='MathJax.Hub.Config({"HTML-CSS":%20{%20preferredFont:%20"TeX",%20availableFonts:%20["STIX","TeX"],%20linebreaks:%20{%20automatic:true%20},%20EqnChunk:%20(MathJax.Hub.Browser.isMobile%20?%2010%20:%2050)%20},tex2jax:%20{%20inlineMath:%20[%20["$",%20"$"],%20["\\\\(","\\\\)"]%20],%20displayMath:%20[%20["$$","$$"],%20["\\[",%20"\\]"]%20],%20processEscapes:%20true,%20ignoreClass:%20"tex2jax_ignore|dno"%20},TeX:%20{%20extensions:%20["mhchem.js"],%20noUndefined:%20{%20attributes:%20{%20mathcolor:%20"red",%20mathbackground:%20"#FFEEEE",%20mathsize:%20"90%25"%20}%20}%20},messageStyle:%20"none"});%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20'+'MathJax.Hub.Startup.onload();';if(window.opera){script.innerHTML=config}else{script.text=config}document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(script)}else{MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub])}$('html').ajaxComplete(function(){MathJax.Hub.Queue(["Typeset",MathJax.Hub])})})();In case you're wondering: I'm using that in StackExchange chatrooms where MathJax doesn't automatically work, because of slowdowns. A chat has to be very responsive after all. That's also where I found the script in the first place.
EDIT: After clicking on said MathJax converter link, I see my post as follows (at least previously to this very edit)
Code:
--- BEGINNING OF SCREENSHOT ---
Code:
--- END OF SCREENSHOT ---
Note that the $\iff$ above is converted and also the example text below, which of corse is pretty useless, but an example none the less.
Title: Re: \mathbf not working properly in LaTeX code.
Post by: cKleinhuis on January 12, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
i had a second javascript parser active, but i deactivated it, there is a javascript latex parser for this forums, but it uses another tag
it is [jslatex] in the editor, right now it is deactivated i think, i can look if i can activate it somehow, or just modify the current plugin to use a javasc ript function instead of an image, it is rather just a single line the whole plugin that replaces the contents of a [tex] tag just with an image tag pointing to the url ;)
it is [jslatex] in the editor, right now it is deactivated i think, i can look if i can activate it somehow, or just modify the current plugin to use a javasc ript function instead of an image, it is rather just a single line the whole plugin that replaces the contents of a [tex] tag just with an image tag pointing to the url ;)