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Description: The Louvre, the golden year of 2067.

Higher quality: http://mandelwerk.deviantart.com/art/Mona-Lisa-Orbittrap-258630451

& my 5 cents about finding a masterpiece in a fractal.

Opposite to some critics on the net I have a strong belief that someone some day will find a masterpiece, "Mona Lisa Class", in a fractal.

The reason this has not been done yet is TIME.
Fractal art is a very young art form, which until recently has been using tools corresponding to Leonardo doing his works without the invention of oil color, paintbrushes and canvas.
The discovery of the Mandelbulb, Mandelbox and hybrids of all known 3D fractals really is a major breakthrough, and I am convinced someone will do a real masterpiece with these new artistic tools (Mandelbulb 3D, Mandelbulber, and the like). I just know it by the experience of my own explorations, this is an infinite universe to scrutinize.
It might take a couple of hundred years, but on the other hand, I do not think Leonardo was ever in a hurry.

Besides this, a masterpiece is selected to be one by TIME, not a jury, not a critic, it matures during decades and centuries. And remember none of the old masters did masterpieces only, even if some did many.

In my own gallery on DA I currently show 262 images,  90% of these I consider to be snapshots, made on my journey through numerous hybrid fractals on my search for the masterpieces. smiley
20-40 of these images I consider to be really good images, and a handful (in my own opinion) are artworks that mean something to me, and hopefully to others.
I have yet to do a masterpiece, but as stated earlier, we will not know that until a couple of hundred years have passed…

Until then, just relax and enjoy the ride! smiley

(The image above is definitely NOT a masterpiece, I would describe it as a snapshot turned into a statement by the help of Photoshop. )

Mandelbulb 3D, cloudy DOF made in Photoshop using my own photos.
Mona Lisa painting by Leonardo da Vinci, copyright expired, also added with Photoshop.
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Posted by: KRAFTWERK September 16, 2011, 11:41:29 AM

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September 18, 2011, 03:44:01 PM
Louis: I agree with you that the adding of other components might be necessary to create a masterpiece fractal image, but I also think there must be a small possibility to find a fractal image that has the quality it takes to stand on its own as a masterpiece and tells a story of its own. This is much much harder, if I am right it will take some time before anyone finds it.
And as I commented on DA I have a big problem with the thought that no one ever will find high class art in an infinite universe of shapes. It is inevitable!
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rellybigname: This is not my best image, but I think it is a curios find worth showing, and the statement it makes made me submit it.
I like the word monsterpiece, will use that! smiley

CO99A5: Considering this piece has been folded through the fourth dimension I wouldn't be surprised if it is already present in the future… smiley
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September 18, 2011, 02:10:57 AM
Yes the modality of the times affects the perception of art. I think in a hundred years we will all be very, very famous.  A Beer Cup To the future!  A Beer Cup
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September 17, 2011, 08:33:11 AM
Awesome shot!  But personally, KRAFTY, I think you have produced even better, and much more to come.  Every time jesse releases an update, I feel like new horizons open up for me.  My ability to explore alien landscapes has gone up seemingly exponentially in the last year.  I think we will be seeing some really amazing things in the fractal world in the next few years.

I think I have some monsterpieces.  In fact, I think each of us have produced some fantastic work, each with different styles.  It does seems like when you look at it all, a few pieces always stand out above the rest of your work though.  If pressed, I think this would have to be my mouseterpiece:
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September 16, 2011, 03:45:28 PM
Nice render, agreed not a masterpiece, but a good discourse. I agree with most of what you have proposed, but would venture that while a fractal masterpiece may not exist yet, it is also possible some do. You for one would be highly likely to have already produced such a work. As you stated, there are fractals that are presented for little more than amusement and fall into the decorative or design category that the critics lob all fractal work in, then there are those, in your case which actually may be fractal masterpieces. If not, they are getting close. You know which ones, and you know which ones you post are merely sharing designs. Creating a masterwork with fractals will require editing to add elements that the viewer can relate to and bring the vision and emotions of the artist into their own psyche.
The masterpieces will come if they are not already here, and likely will not look like the swirly colored work the general public has come to know as fractals. In fact, with the advent of programs which can reproduce natural forms in 3D so well as Mandelbulb and Mandelbulber, there is reason to feel that the work will not resemble fractals at all. For a fractal work to be considered a masterpiece, among other things, it must have elements which are clearly fractal or that it is fractal at all can easily be overlooked, which is the case of may of the pictures generated by these programs. As usual, good work, not your best, but better than many others here, and while it is possible that you recognize a piece of your own as a masterpiece, it will take the eye of the publec to be captured en mass to actually make it one.
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PS: It is somewhat doubtful that Vermeer, Valezquez, Leonardo or Raphael knew that the work they had completed was a masterpiece. Yes, thhey could think this is really something, but, as you have said, it was time and the public that made the works more than the canvas, paint and picture they were.
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September 16, 2011, 02:21:36 PM
Exactly what I mean Fritz, and of course at least 19 of the tree images will be crap.  afro
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September 16, 2011, 01:57:41 PM
Excellent snapshot my friend, I always admire your postwork abilities as well as the Fractals. Yeah, the term "Masterpiece" is tossed around quite a bit, don't think I've ever been accused of producing one, I'll settle for getting a WoW now and then. The WoW factor is very relevant with your works, you usually get a WoW out of me anyway.
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September 16, 2011, 01:44:58 PM
I can see your points. It's a very addictive program to explore, because the possibilities seem infinite. I love it grin. I always try to find/create images that look at least to me somehow different than most others, but its easy to get distracted by the beautiful places we encounter.. its like photography: give 20 people the task to photograph a tree, and you get 20 different photos anyway. And then there is the image processing afterwards..Anyway, I like this one A Beer Cup

and thank you jesse for this excellent piece of software..wink

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