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I've been trying to figure out what I was doing wrong with my torus mutation.
Turns out I was trying to do it the hard way 



Here 2 torus and 4 linear transforms for some symmetry

Yup.... I'm working on it.
I was dooing all of my animations on SunGrid until my hours ran out

I've got some more RAM coming for this computer, but don't have a delivery date yet.

I've also got an old box I'm thinking about setting up just for long term renders, I just don't know the best way to do it. My curent thinking is to just set it up with Windows on my network and using VNC to manage it (I don't have a spare monitor, or a place to set it up)

One thing I could use suggestions on, is how to setup Windows "bare-bones" just to run Java, I'll need to free up as many resources as possible. That or I may choose to set it up as a Solaris or Ubuntu Computer, but thene there's a learning curve that goes along with that.

I could sure use about 20 more hours in a day