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« on: January 18, 2012, 05:52:05 PM » |
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Hi again. Need a *LEGIT* download site for DOSBox freeware (to run fractint as before) that will run on Windows 7 as many claim. Some look & act suspicious. Any help available? Thanx in advance.
Plan is to move new machine to a place w. web access temporarily, do necessary downloads, which must be installed online, and disconnect it again for offline operation. I have my reasons...see above, partly...
Also, if orig. thread disappeared on purpose, please leave reason why. Thanx again.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 07:00:27 PM » |
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You seem overly paranoid, the first three google hits for dosbox are 1) its official website, 2) wikipedia, 3) the sourceforge page where the downloads are. What is the problem? How can you not find a legit download with that?
Your first post has been moved and made a sticky but I am not sure where.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 09:15:52 PM » |
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First, thanks to Darkbeam for indulging me here. I put the orig. thread here for *visibility*, since I'm in a hurry, as the first post explained.
The win 7 version i'm using is 64-bit, will not take MS's 32-bit XP emulator without an upgrade, and I still don't know whether it would work as real XP did.
DOSbox home doesn't make clear which version to use. Wikipedia is "closed" today, and I support their reasons why. I would bet that they would only direct to DOSBox home anyway. Sourceforge shows "32" in the download name, so I'm still not clear if it's for 64-bit...it's not that I didn't do my homework somewhat.
I'm at the library on a public machine. No downloads allowed, drives disabled for security reasons. Paranoia? THEY have THEIR reasons...if it wasn't for paranoia, MS wouldn't have done what they did to the people who put them on the map using MSDOS way back when anyway. ...and I, on the other hand, deal with privacy issues in ways that most would never understand. I am deeply suspicious of this DARPA internet and fear all will lose their ID in "the cloud" when all is said & done. Feel a bit dependent? -No accident!
Taurus66- thanks for the lead, greatly appreciated. Still, nothing of which one would be right for 64-bit. But thanx again!
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taurus
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 09:33:59 PM » |
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The win 7 version i'm using is 64-bit, will not take MS's 32-bit XP emulator without an upgrade, and I still don't know whether it would work as real XP did.
don't be so anxious. 32bit code runs great on 64bit systems, but they run in 32bit mode. for emulating a 16bit system this should be more than enough... i doubt, that you'll need a 32bit emulation between. |
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 07:59:20 PM » |
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taurus66- I ran across a couple sites that said you need to turn off antivirus software, etc. to not interfere w. installation. Never had a machine of my own connected before, and like any con, it makes sense, but...
...you ARE right, though. I just have to take a deep breath first and think it out. Found some sites that look & feel clean & sound. I might be even more suspicious there. Learned that almost nothing is as it seems, especially on www. Paranoia!!! Big laffs...!
Life is short.
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 07:13:03 PM » |
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Hooked up my machine for 1st time and employed Norton's trial version, pretty good bodyguard for this, made it easier. Got DOSBox and a frontend to play with. Since I don't know exactly how to set it up, I have to do more homework and play around with it. Also got Beta 5 version of Fractint for Windows, seems to work, but I have to move my formula files, palettes, etc. into it, etc. It was/is a developers' version dated 2008, I think, and they warn you about bugs not found yet. That would be infinitely easier, and in that case, if it doesn't blow up, I'll go that way.
So I'll keep the machine after all...
And many, many thanks to all those who provided the guidance. Whew! There's a load off! I think it was fractal withdrawal symptoms.
But thanks again!
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 03:33:11 AM » |
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dunno if it's of interest, but there are stable versions of fractint available for windows, linux and dos ( http://fractint.org/) |
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2012, 07:26:56 PM » |
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Yes, it looks like I might have picked the wrong Fractint for Windows (Beta version). Put my palettes in the map folder, my formula subfolders in the formula folder, and that's neater and pretty speedy. Quickly I found a curious thing: it saves pix to a hidden folder accessible TO the program, but not FROM outside it. So why oh why? It's cute and neat that the developers can do that, but exactly HOW does discouraging user testing further Fractint's cause?
I really don't get that. Any insights or speculations about that?
(Guessing the name of the picture storage dir. ends in the character "$")
Naturally, I then figured out how to get FractintDOS up in DOSBox. DOSBox configures automatically but is then painfully slow (maybe to simulate timing in old games made for slow machines). To use it properly (say, to get more speed), you basically have to learn a new OS. My current crude setup scrambles the image whenever any Fractint live menu key (like <tab> for status screen) is pressed, so I get all the required instructions straight first, then start the picture fresh, touching nothing until it's done, and hitting <s>ave. Tedious but promising...
So if you have a machine running FractintDOS in XP with the autoexec.nt patch, count your blessings. I have a flaky one stored far away. It goes bluescreen without warning when it gets too chilly. Thinking it might be the battery that keeps time and date when it's off, and easily fixed...
...or not...
(But we do it for love!)
Later.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 04:24:40 PM » |
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The version of FfW I downloaded was labeled 20.99.8, from LegalizeAdulthood's download site for it, thru Mundofractal.net. It works only as described in the last post, and nothing I tried unlocks the pix folder. Is there a fix?
I edited the DOSBox.conf file to speed THAT up somewhat, and invoke FractintDOS automatically on start. Also played w. display there, but can't get it to leave the image unmolested when live keys are pressed. Any help THERE?
Thanx in advance.
Later.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 04:56:37 PM » |
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the project site says current version is 20.04p11 why are you searching shady places instead of official project sites  do you really think the higher version number provides some functionallity... |
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 06:45:41 PM » |
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the post you linked is about 5 years old! |
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 08:14:01 PM » |
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the post you linked is about 5 years old! As if I didn't notice...  It's still a 32bit version of fractint which may run natively under Win7 x64, if you know of a more recent 32bit build of fractint feel free to post a link to it. And FWIW, it's not because some software is five years old that it is rubbish or shouldn't be used which your post somehow seem to imply, Fractal explorer has not been updated since now 7 years and it's still good to use today. And guess what? I am posting this with an operating system that is 12 years old...  |
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 08:20:36 PM » |
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Wish I knew then what I know now...so I'll cart the machine back to a hookup site and do it over. And thanx again... Just got it on good authority elsewhere that the version I mentioned (20.99.  is very likely totally unofficial. Still curious as to why it was set up like that...only because it's so peculiar. Later! |
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