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Question: Would translations for the Fragmentarium GUI be desireable?
Yes - 5 (71.4%)
No - 2 (28.6%)
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Author Topic: Internationalization for Fragmentarium  (Read 1712 times)
Description: Generating language translation files for the GUI
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« on: September 18, 2016, 11:56:53 PM »

It only took a couple of days in my spare time to use Google to translate all of the English texts in the GUI to Russian but I have no idea if it's good or bad, I can only guess at language semantics and syntax

If you would like other languages for the GUI or have time to help out please post me a note indicating how you might be of assistance, proof reading, doing the translating, beta testing, etc...

I would like to do the help files as well but am unfamiliar with this "Internationalization" process and the functionality from a programming standpoint, I still have a few things to learn wink


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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 09:41:53 AM »

nice one i'm sure it will be appreciated and useful, sadly i'm almost as bad at languages as I am at maths!
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 05:53:09 PM »

I'm russian, can help, but don't think that translating will change something  undecided
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 06:06:10 PM »

I am not a fragmentarium user so I am not familiar with the text used in the program. Neither am I a programmer. But I would like to help with translating. I can translate the program gui to Dutch, if I know how to do that. smiley
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 06:55:24 PM »

I think all programmers knows Enhlish, strange if not. And Frag has intuitive interface.
So translated manual for beginners - it will be more actual. Need really basic things. Fragmentarium works even on IvyBridge GPU and theoretically, the number of users is increasing.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 02:47:09 AM »

I'm russian, can help, but don't think that translating will change something  undecided
thanks sign as soon as I have a win exe I'll pm you a link, the zip will have the raw translation text file too

The idea is that there would probably be fewer questions if help files and things are in a familiar language,
easier to understand what a button or menu item does.

I agree that most programmers probably understand English out of necessity just because of the code, compilers and documentation they have to work with.
Qt provides a facility for locale aware GUIs and all of the tools to make them so for me this is a fun way to learn more about programming cheesy and maybe encourage others to explore math and fractals.

EDIT: we'll see how the poll goes wink
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 07:25:15 PM »

Ok, the poll is done, thank you all for the input and generous offers of your precious time  A Beer Cup
yeah, machine translation is laughable
@Christ-JRoger you're right it seems not to make a big difference in using the program itself, maybe just documentation needs some attention wink
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2016, 10:11:05 AM »

I see you already got a volunteer for the dutch version smiley If you cannot find a native speaker for german, I'm in (am sort of an ex-native speaker and can tame google translate-garble well enough to produce something making sense, I hope wink ). But if you find a real native speaker, by all means!
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2016, 07:59:13 PM »

Here is the raw xml as a txt file for anyone that would like to translate, it is English to (machine)Russian, the format is simple, just replace the relevant parts with your native language and pm me a link to your text file, I will include as time permits and add a credit to the About section.
Thanks (in advance) for the input  A Beer Cup
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2016, 02:19:31 AM »

3dickulus, я скачал файл, попробую перевести с машинного русского на человеческий русский.  cheesy
Попробую быстро, но при наличии времени.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2016, 01:01:06 PM »

Ну вот, готово!

* Fragmentarium ru.rar (29.7 KB - downloaded 52 times.)
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2016, 01:57:20 PM »

Nice! I will be looking at it this evening  afro
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2016, 02:29:06 PM »

@SCORPION whatever that file you posted is,  Fragmentarium ru.rar, it is useless to me, not useable, it extracts to a xml file that is 930K, the original with both English and Russian (machine) is only 116K, your file has lines longer than 4096 characters.

For translations I can only accept a text file in the same format as the one I posted earlier, no .xml, no .doc, only .txt

can you post the text only file?
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2016, 03:56:40 PM »

And I opened your file in Notepad, but there are still hitched in one pile.
Then I was given a boost in Microsoft Office Word file and edited there.
well, I reopened the file in a Microsoft Office Word and save as .txt
Strangely, the file will be smaller than the original.

* Fragmentarium ru.txt (108.94 KB - downloaded 52 times.)
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2016, 01:41:27 AM »

Word saves a lot of extra stuff like editing history, colors, font, page formatting etc.
Your .txt file looks perfect cheesy
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