blatant art theft !

[cKleinhuis]

it came to my ear and eyes through facebook and deviantart, and i think everyone should be aware of it

http://www.ipernity.com/doc/643659
http://mandelbulb3d.deviantart.com/journal/Blatant-Fractal-Art-Theft-551386184

this person is taking images and publishing them as their own, which is by no way acceptable, the question is how can we effectively shut this person down and get the account silenced

[cKleinhuis]

one way could be to privately contacting everyone who has commented on that, and making them to remove their comments and state that it is a thefted image
contacting the company might be another method, i think bib already did so


i send the company an email requestring to cancel the account.... everyone who is affected shall do the same that the company realizes that we do have a point here

[mclarekin]

I have found the simple solution is to only produce mediocre images, some of you guys make the mistake of producing really good stuff.

But seriously, it is a bit weird for someone to, not only steal, but then sincerely accept credit for someone else’s work. Where is their head at? I guess its part of the weirding of the computer age world.

[3dickulus]

unfortunately we can't "make" them do anything, at least not without a lot of cash, but it is amazing what people will do to avoid mosquitoes, everyone that has any concern, directly or in passing, should post disapproval about it in public forums and be sure to mention the web address and account name, then let the bots do their work.

I note that in the gallery when looking at a single picture it says (for example http://www.ipernity.com/doc/643659/37657184) "Photo taken on April  7, 2015", these are not "photos" so could only be "taken" in one way, and I think that is the very definition of "theft".

admittedly I don't know if this particular image is an original by Zelda Kurowski or not, I am only using it here as an example to illustrate the point, it does, however, state on the page "(c) All rights reserved", ipernity.com , as the publisher, should be concerned but I am not educated regarding the copyright laws of the country where this site originates, or the EULA for members of ipernity.com .

the bots search this page and others will also accumulate hits, being known as plagiarists and thieves is not a desirable thing, me thinks.

just my 2c worth for the hungry bots

edit:the DA page that mentions this already shows up at the bottom of the first page when searching "Zelda Kurowski"

[Caleidoscope]

Just checking it and to my big surprise she even got some of mine :
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/643659/35683241
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/643659/35413711
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/643659/35413701
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/643659/35007913
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/643659/34903637   Some got new names, some she just use the old name as I gave them. 

All are posted on this forum. It is definitely a place for her to roam the site.   I do have a website but there the size of the picture is only 1280.  So that is not good enough I suppose

Here is a very familiar one from our forum : http://www.ipernity.com/doc/643659/35284947  and I've seen plenty others that are definitely stolen.
I checked it out and I can report her but I wait until we all agree on how to act? Each on it's own or maybe all at the same time?
At the moment I'm very busy for we are moving to an apartment elsewhere and there is still so much to do  

Point will be that she will probably just assume another name and will continue in her same manner.  (?)  But we got to do something, right?

Greetings
Caleidoscope
 

[simon.snake]

I have found the simple solution is to only produce mediocre images, some of you guys make the mistake of producing really good stuff.

Nothing I've ever put on fractalforums is on there.  Not sure what that says about my art ;-)

[Sockratease]

Nothing I've ever put on fractalforums is on there.  Not sure what that says about my art ;-)

I was shocked that I saw some of my stuff!

Nobody ever liked my art enough to steal it before  

I'll post in the comments and report it to the site as plagiarism.  



EDIT - Wait...  that's not on deviant art!

Reporting it isn't possible and not sure we can do much except report it to their web hosting company.  Just gotta figure out who that is...

[Sockratease]

Here's what I posted in a report to their moderators  (I could not find out how to post a comment on that site!  It may be my no-script settings blocking it) and all are welcome to use this as a template, just substitute the appropriate links and information for your own art:


Hi.  This image was created by me and posted on FractalForums.com at March 22, 2015, 11:27:51 AM according to the date stamp showing here: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17220

MANY of this person's images are in our Gallery on that site, but I can only legally report my own and instruct you to remove it plus inform the member to stop stealing from our site!

This message can be considered sent as part of the DMCA laws regulating internet piracy.  A full and proper DMCA Notice requires I make a legal threat, but I am trying to keep this friendly.

I appreciate your attention to this matter.

Thank you.

[Caleidoscope]

Nobody ever liked my art enough to steal it before  

LOL  me too, not even my family has any interest in my fractals what so ever, beside sometimes they will watch them just to be polite  LOL  Not that I care  
So whatever we decide to do I already had a good laugh today!  

And Socratease thanks for the template.  I will follow your example!   

[Sockratease]

Hehheh...

I originally said privacy when I meant piracy!

Once again, the posting before having coffee problem strikes!

I updated the template I posted here, but too late for the one I sent   

Yeah, the key to reporting this sort of thing is to identify yourself as creator and link to where it was posted prior to the pirated post - and to mention the Digital Millennium Copyright Act  (DMCA).

[Sockratease]

LOL  me too, not even my family has any interest in my fractals what so ever, beside sometimes they will watch them just to be polite  LOL  Not that I care  
So whatever we decide to do I already had a good laugh today!  

And Socratease thanks for the template.  I will follow your example!   

No problem - I hope others use it or something similar.

This was months ago, but our rights still stand.

And don't worry - I had to start mapping images of the woman I love to orbit traps before she began appreciating fractals...

[mclarekin]

@simon , hmmmm, same thoughts here.  And then again , I was going to suggest getting Zelda to judge next years art competition.

LOL  me too, not even my family has any interest in my fractals what so ever, beside sometimes they will watch them just to be polite

@ caliedoscope. So it is not only me that fails to inspire the family with fractals. My family is polite too.

@ Sockratease. So it is not only me that occasionally posts before coffee, and suffers the consequence. I personally have a talent for typo's. 

Man!,  oh man,  to think of all the poor people who wasted their time praising "her" work, that is a secondary crime to be added to the stealing, I think the ipernity should redirect all favourable critiques to the creators of the original art work. LOL

[cKleinhuis]

that receiving of the comments is what struggles me most as well, because she is really taking the compliments as for her own work, seems to be a little closed foruim if no one mentioned seeing the images elsewhere

[Caleidoscope]

   Thank you Socratease you give me hope that one day they will see the charm of them, I'm over 60 so I hope they wont wait too long  
To be honest they do like some fractals from others on the forum and they ask me why I can't make beautiful fractals like that   Well it keeps me humble as you can understand and sometimes I just     and have a nice cool    especially when it is hot like today!

OT.  I just made a ticket as well, in Dutch so I'm curious if I will get the same message back from them as you do in English.  

@Mclarekin  about asking her to judge might be a good idea for she doesn't have to search for them she can just take them one at the time  And I'm sorry but I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't inspire the family members, not even my close friends with fractals.  

[Caleidoscope]

Well after I send them the message about theft and closing down her account etc.  I tried to respond under our pictures on her site but that didn't work.
So I made my own account just for the time being and I send all of her admirers a message that they are spilling their time and compliments to an thief. And I've asked them to let everybody know so she can't continue with this shit.

As a bonus I put one of my own pictures on  'my page'  of course one she has stolen with a nice comment under it for anyone to see.
Maybe they will ban me, not that I care but in the meantime it is open and out.  Let's have some fun? 

This is the page and once you can log in you can send messages to everyone.  I'm not planning to stay a member it's not my type of forum, just for now
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/1816944

 

And now it is time for that ice cold beer I am longing for after a hot day packing everything in and running around for we will be moving this weekend
Nothing but stuff, stuff, stuff,  My God so much stuff  where does it all come from ?