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Author Topic: 6th Annual Competition Results 2013 - FILM  (Read 1243 times)
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cKleinhuis
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« on: July 01, 2013, 06:50:06 AM »

indexthumbfilenamememberNametitleratingtotalratingsaverageRatingviews
1eiffiebooks r stupid113264,3462345
2slon_rufractal Zoo112264,3077338
3ariasIDOL110254,4000352
4BrummbaerWhere in the Universe is Timothy Leary?80194,2105247
5trumanbrownEnlightenment78184,3333321
6arthurstammetExplore76194,0000250
7arteandreasThe World Builder75193,9474218
8trumanbrownOf Tempered Wings and Wheels73193,8421260
9TransdimensionalWorlds Within Worlds: Tanawha Extended Preview64203,2000182
10Mikeygs64The Emerald City63183,5000326
11arthurstammetLooking for a New Home62183,4444222
12arteandreasAbstraction57193,0000194
13TahyonArchtech Citty49182,7222244
14asdklfjdfSharp Pointed Metal Stars48172,8235137
15PauldelbrotStrange New Worlds47162,9375165
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2013, 09:00:04 PM »

I agree with the winner, but I see that the added up rating is used to determine the winners and not the averages? I would have voted differently if I knew that.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2013, 09:13:13 PM »

yay, but think again about it, if the average rating would succede the total amount, a single 5 star rating would rule out everything, it is the interaction that gone into account here! and in fact i like the fact that strategic voters are mislead by this method, because voting one single star to everyone elses is even better than no voting at all wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 09:51:07 PM »

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Greetings  and Salutations to all!


It is the step you take to try it, the very first step, that ushers in opportunity to win it! We want to congratulate all, all those who participated, in the fractal forums 2013 contests! And a special thank you, and congratulation to all the well deserved winners, and Fractal champions! 







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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 10:05:54 PM »

I fully agree with Christian here. I judged every single entry (except my own) in all three sections and I used the full range from 0 (no vote) to 5 points. So no vote from me, was a judgement itself. I'm ok with that way of voting.
And Dinky, you're no newbe. You could have found out yourself, by taking a closer look at last years stats...

One word to the film section. It's the closest possible decission and it's really hard for slon_ru to be beaten by one single point. Keep up! This years winner was second last year, so your chance is high to make it next time.  wink  On my list you were on top already this year.

But no harm effie - you're still a deserved winner! Congrats from me.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 11:50:13 PM »

And Dinky, you're no newbe. You could have found out yourself, by taking a closer look at last years stats...
Yes, I have seen the entries from previous years, but I didn't participate since 2009, so I didn't pay close enough attention to notice that.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 11:53:38 PM »

it is true, in the beginning it was the average, but the participation developed like this,
and this was not so obvious in the beginning, i think we changed it at around 2010 or something ...

indexyearsum(totalratings)entriesaverageVoteCountaverageRating
12008249534,69814,1365
indexyearsum(totalratings)entriesaverageVoteCountaverageRating
12009514628,29033,2510
indexyearsum(totalratings)entriesaverageVoteCountaverageRating
12010149113111,38172,9698
indexyearsum(totalratings)entriesaverageVoteCountaverageRating
12011177216210,93833,3606
indexyearsum(totalratings)entriesaverageVoteCountaverageRating
12012210819510,81033,5090
indexyearsum(totalratings)entriesaverageVoteCountaverageRating
12013394018721,06953,3662
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 04:56:38 PM »

Yes the ratings threw me at first (how did I actually win?) but it makes sense to me now and that is how I voted as well with no vote=zero. I am regretting not making a second film because that would have split my votes. I made a promise to myself to repay the community by making a GUI version of my app if I won. I made the promise last year but I guess it still holds. Don't expect too much though.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 05:58:23 PM »

Actually there is a way to calculate the score in a way which is more fair -- capturing both situation with many votes and protecting from single 5-stars and no-votes. The only needed data is: the SUM of votes and the NUMBER of votes (the AVERAGE is not sufficient by itself).
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 06:01:00 PM »

please elaborate more, both values are available above, the rating is the sum, and totalratings is the count ...
please tell us how you would do it
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 06:19:41 PM »

No problem, cKleinhuis. It uses basic arithmetic operations and exponents.

I'd need some time to prepare a few examples, covering all extreme situations that I can think of. Maybe tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I'll post it... Then we can all play different scenarios to find whether my suggestion is good or bad.

Stay tuned...
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2013, 11:42:21 PM »

I'd need some time to prepare a few examples...Stay tuned...

I'm ready with the proposal. I will send it to you in a pm, so you will be the first (private) reviewer. If you think the proposal has some potential, then make it public and let others provide feedback. The method has some flexibility, so it may need some fine-tuning until it reaches the optimal balance between the average score and the popularity of an entry.

(I finalized the proposal while sleeping, so I hope there are not so many mistakes)
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