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Author Topic: How to freeze a spinning 3d mandelbrot ?  (Read 4112 times)
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« on: October 30, 2006, 11:38:35 PM »

Greetings,

I have got a spinning 3d Mandel here...

Any idea how to freeze ?

    http://www.maverdigitalarts.de/fracts/cyberartist___3madel-0004.jpg
    http://www.maverdigitalarts.de/fracts/cyberartist___3madel-0005.jpg

[EDIT 11/11/2006]
http://www.maverdigitalarts.de/fracts/MultiBrots.pde
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 12:00:11 AM »

What do you mean with to freeze?

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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 12:12:37 AM »

I made the same 3D Mandelbrot set with the Fractal Imaginator (Fi).

See link voor image and parameters.

www.fractal.org/fractal.doc

Jules Ruis.

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 12:33:18 AM »

    What do you mean with to freeze?     Jules Ruis.

Hello Jules,

Like we can see, it looks like a mandelbrot, which looks like to spin around his X axxis.

This is because the c / z  is similar like the b / y.

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b = twoab + y
c = twoac + z
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c / z must be modified, so that the rotations symmetiy dissappears and 3d bulbs will be visible like i have drawn in http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?topic=156.0

Maybe i am a reality far fictionary guy, but i take this as a challenge... for all fractalists.

And when i am wrong, when it will never be possible to render it... maybe i will paint it!  :-)
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 12:42:03 AM »

    I made the same 3D Mandelbrot set with the Fractal Imaginator (Fi).
    See link voor image and parameters.
            www.fractal.org/fractal.doc
    Jules Ruis.

Hello Jules,

The Fractal Imaginator seems to be very powerful.
unfortunately it is not a free software piece, so that the amateur fractal explorer would just known the name but never will
use it, and like you stated it is rather a tool for education.  And it is free for teachers....

So please, why do you promote so much for it here ?

When you want to sell, why don't you sell it to the educators, teachers, institutions (schools)...!?

this is just a thought, please don't take it personally....

M.Vernaglione
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2006, 10:30:22 AM »

I promote the Fractal Imaginator being a tool  very suitable as well for educators as for artists.

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2006, 01:34:20 PM »

Jules let me ask you a straight question, and I'd like a straight answer.

Do you receive commission from the sale of Fractal Imaginator?


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>    Terry W. Gintz is the owner and saler of the Fractal Imaginator (Fi).
>    I possess the intellectual property rights of the Julius Ruis set.
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>    Your question about the commission is out of order in a public debate forum.

Yes, we know that Terry is the owner and developer of the program.  But, since you did not directly answer the question asked, I must assume that you are getting some form of compensation from Terry for "pushing" his program in the majority of your postings to this Forum.

And in your reply at http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?topic=132.15 , you stated the following:
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>    I developed the Fractal Imaginator (Fi) for further
>    research of the Julius set.

I believe this may not be an accurate statement, unless you had full access to the Visual C++ code that was used to create the program.

 
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2006, 01:49:55 PM »

Dear Jason,

If you think I disturb the public debate by mentioning the name of the Fractal Imaginator (Fi), then I will stop using this name.

For me the content of the program and its possiblities for fractal users is the only goal.

Sorry for all the misunderstandings.

Greetings,
Jules Ruis.
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2006, 01:53:26 PM »

Terry W. Gintz is the owner and saler of the Fractal Imaginator (Fi). I possess the intellectual property rights of the Julius Ruis set.

intellectual property?! you are certainly not the first to put a few julias in a mandelbrot, this indexing of julia types (dendritic vs "solid", etc) is very well known and there exist several academic publications on the subject (and those authors certainly didn't name the amalgamation after themselves).

Your question about the commission is out of order in a public debate forum.

i think sending unsolicited commercial emails (there's a single word for that) to all fractalforums members about the fi is a little more "out of order". frankly that's the reason why i emailed you back about getting started with commercial fractal renderer development - i thought you were in on it commercially.

it's a perfectly acceptable question to be asked whether or not your work is (or will be turned into something) commercial, since that might well make other posters reluctant to share their formulae and methods (see for example http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?topic=46.msg93#msg93).
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2006, 04:22:00 PM »

Dear Thomas (Lycium),

It was my intention to inform you about the latest developments in the world of fractals and life sciences. If I did not succeed in sending the right message, then I want to apologize.

Best Regards,
Jules Ruis.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2006, 01:40:09 AM »

Frankly, Jules, I get tired of hearing about how FI is better than sex or anything else. I am sure it is good, but being bombarded with references to it is not going to make me want to buy it. First of all, I don't have any money for nonessential things. I am lucky to have a roof over my computer. Second, I'm comfortable with what I have now. I still enjoy trying out new things, but only if they are free to try. So yes, please do hold down the "ruis". wink
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2006, 09:54:02 AM »

Dear Matera,

I have understood your message.

Regards,
Jules Ruis.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2006, 02:23:17 PM »

While I'm making fractals (or browsing fractal discussion boards), I like to quench my thirst with a refreshing glass of Coke(tm). Enjoy a Coca-Cola today!

www.coca-cola.com

(Disclaimer: I'm recommending this product purely in the interests of other fractalists. Making fractals is thirsty work after all)
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2006, 03:08:00 PM »

Dear friends,

Is it possible to settle a thing like this through Private Mail? It makes me a bit sad...

Titia
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2006, 03:29:24 PM »

Titia,

I fully agree with you, so back to the subject.

I asked Roger Bagula and Bob Devaney (both mathematicians) to have a look at the spinning 3D mandelbrot.

I will keep you informed.

Jules. Ruis.
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